Well, Roger, based on what we have of His words, then. Show whee in His words where He condemned homosexuality or even out of wedlock sex?
Doc- Just here in this thread there is “some doubts and much arguement”:dubious:. And if you say a bunch of Talmudic scholars agree 100% on ANYTHING without quibbles and such, you’re smoking something. 
My misgivings about the notion that Jesus-was-“open and forgiving”-whereas-Paul-was-not are not restricted to the issue of homosexuality. Indeed, you would appear not to be restricting that idea to Jesus’s views on homosexuality, since he is not recorded as having given any.
Jesus was tough on all sin. If a Christian believes that two men having sex together is a sin (to God), then it’s a bit hazardous to suggest that Jesus would be open on the matter. That’s all.
If a Christian believes something, that proves that Jesus believed it?
That’s putting the cart before the horse, is it not?
Naughty, naughty, Dio! I think you can read what I wrote.
Well, at this point you need to figure out what was sin in Jesus’s view – no doubt in my mind that He disapproved of sin, especially that of the Pharisees – and what His take on it would be.
The suggestion that the centurion’s “boy” was not a servant in his house, but rather his beloved catamite, has been made. If true – and it’s a pretty far stretch, founded totally on the use of “boy” to describe the relationship AFAIK – this would represent the one time that Jesus was known to have encountered a gay person. And his comment is revealing.
Swapping back over to hetero-sex, we know what he thought of sex outside marriage, and those who condemned it, from the story of the woman taken in adultery. (And let me say that I have a nice Pit thread prepared for the person who quotes His last five words to justify their condemning it as sin without referencing the rest of the story.)
And clearly, He was much more lenient towards human failings than towards the self-righteous – a point that seems to have escaped the vast majority of those who claim to follow Him.
Going from memory, his last five words were “Go, and sin no more”. This does I feel give a nice insight into Jesus’s views on sin.
The problem is that you have not shown that Jesus thought homosexuality was a sin.
You should also know that the bible does not condemn all sex outside of marriage, at least not for men.
Well, Dio, that’s because it’s not something that can be shown!
According to the new covenant?
The “New Covenant” is about how sin is forgiven, not about what defines it.
Good memory, if selective. Tell you what – go read the story, and report back on what else Jesus said, and why John might have chosen to include that anecdote in his Gospel. (Yeah, I know I sound supercilious in that – but I’d rather not Pit you unless you wilfully misrepresent our Lord in public. So do what I ask, huh?)
I know!
He said “Who condemns you?”
She said “No one.”
SHould I have put that in a spoiler box?
Forgive me. 
Um. I know this. He said . . .
“Let Oliver Stone sin with the cast.”
You’re paying for the therapy I’m going to need because of the brainflash of Stone and Kevin Costner gettin’ it on…
For those interested in reading the story of the woman caught in adultery, here it is.
Jesus is fazed not a wit by the tricks of the Pharisees, indicates that the new covenant is among them (physically, indeed, for he embodies it), challenges them for their hypocrisy, does not condemn the woman and commands her to change her lifestyle.
He demonstrates a sharp intellect, equity, judgement, insight and tough love.
Love your ‘pit’ jibe, by the way - which was taken in the way you intended it to be. It got me to thinking that if Jesus were to come on the boards, he would receive the mother and father of all pittings. Some things never change.
I do not remember that scene from JFK .
There was a second cameraman on the grassy knoll.
Poly- Book,Chapter, Verse- please? Centurion story, that is.
I don’t see any “tough love” or “judgement.” Just the opposite, in fact. I see unconditional acceptance and an admonition against moral judgement.
Who would notice one more bleeding-heart liberal around here?
DrDeth, the story referred to by Polycarp, the healing of the centurion’s servant/slave, is found in two gospels, Matthew (8: 5-13) and Luke (7: 1-10).
In Matthew the word ‘pais’, which means boy, is used, while in the parallel passage in Luke, ‘doulos’, the word for slave, is used. Some people have taken this to indicate that the young man was the Roman centurion’s male lover. Perhaps unsurprisingly, not many Biblical scholars take this very seriously.
In the interests of full disclosure, I ought perhaps to mention that I studied Greek (and Latin) to university level.