Christians Agasinst Beck. Will it help?

In My Humble Opinion
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I got an Email from a group called Faithful America about their add claiming Glen Beck is distorting the gospel by denouncing social justice.
Here’s the highlights

Another Christian group called the Sojourners is objecticing to Beck and being vocal about it.

Jim Wallis author and founder of the Sojourners has offered to go on Becks show to debate him about what the Bible says about social justice. Although I don’t accept the dogma I appreciate Wallis’s work and the balance it brings. It amuses me to see Christian groups going after Beck who likes to wave the flag and parade his beliefs out in defense of his stinking advocations. Do you think this will gain any significant national traction and serve as an embaressment to Beck?

I sure hope so.

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One interesting point is that Beck is Mormon and some Christians say Mormons are not Christian because they believe in stuff like the Book of Mormon.

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Nah, he’s not exactly Mormon. He’s from the Church of More Money.

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“Church of Mammon”

Do most people think of Beck as a Christian pundit as opposed to a political one? Good grief I hope not.

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Well hopefully none of them will be dumb enough to say “He can’t talk about Jesus cause he’s a Mormon”
I think the problem is that he has included rants against social justice so much that they just got tired of him preaching a “gospel” they didn’t agree with. Wallis founded the Sojourners because he wanted people to know that not all Christians agreed with the fundamentalists and thought gay marriage and abortion were the only important issues.

I doin’t know if Beck made comments directed at them first but now he talks about these bad Christians attacking him.

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He says what he says on Fox because it’s his job. Christianity could be proven wrong tomorrow and he would still get on and sing it’s praises cuz that’s what he gets paid to do. Same with Limbaugh, and O’Reilly, etc. They aren’t worried about truth or logic or reality, they’re worried about about not losing their listeners. Or sponsors.

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I think that’s true but he makes it a point to be all about loving America, truth justice, and Jesus. I like the idea that other Jesus lovers call him into question.

Media matters can handle the truth part.

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And, to many Christians, it’s far more important.

I still say he admitted it was all a ruse in that USA Today article. I wonder if he’s just laughing about how gullible his audience is.

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I’m not familiar with this article. Link?

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It was Forbes.

Relevant passage

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It won’t make any difference because Beck’s listeners are stone-cold morons.

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Sojourners & Jim Wallis were Evangelical Christians who were liberal on economic, defense, racial, etc. issues but conservative on abortion & sexuality issues. Over the years, there is a perception that their Evangelicalism & moral conservatism has somewhat faded to the point that fewer rank & file Evangelicals see them as anything but part of the liberal Protestant establishment. So nope- no help whatsoever.

Btw, Southern Baptist and Latter-Day Saints spokesmen, hardly bastions of liberalism, have chastised Beck for his denunciation of “social justice” & have upheld it as a valid concern for conservative believers. However, I will say that while Beck did indeed vastly overstate the case (surprise!)- his core point was correct in that the term “social justice” has often been code words for both socialism & fascism (Father Charles Coughlin’s periodical was titled “Social Justice”). He neglected to differentiate between legitimate use of the term & propagandistic use. (Surprise again, of course.)

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I did read a similar statement in the USA Today Sunday magazine.

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He even references god in those stupid Goldline commercials, so though he might not be a Christian pundit, per se, he’s still a very vocal Christian.

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Interestingly, there is nothing in the BoM that really violates any historic Christian doctrine. The real matters of contention are- that God the Father was an exalted man and that humans can be exalted to Godhood, that all other churches were apostate until Christ restored the true Church thru Joseph Smith, and that exaltation requires such things as quasi-Masonic rituals.

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Here’s another similar quote from an article the New York Times did on him last year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/30/business/media/30beck.html?scp=1&sq=glenn%20beck%20and%20rodeo%20clown&st=cse

As I’ve said many times on this message board, the guy’s a charlatan. If he thought he could make a buck taking a dump on the American flag, you’d see his pants flying down at warp speed.

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Well, Beck is going blind. Though I doubt that is something Christians Against Beck actually prayed for.

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Wallis is currently an advisor to President Obama. Are you shocked that he’s criticizing Beck?

His intentional distortion of what Beck has said about Social Justice is reprehensible. Seriously, read that link. It’s the whole issue in a nutshell.

Father Charles Coughlin used it when naming his National Union For Social Justice and his publication Social Justice Weekly

Faithful America was put together by Faith in Public Life, which is a collection of Progressives masquerading as preachers.

Jim Wallis: progressive advisor to President Obama, founder of Sojourners, says voluntary charity isn’t enough (1:27 here) and redistribution of wealth is “what the gospel is all about” (same link, 2:09)

Rabbi David Saperstein: He has served as the director and chief legal counsel at the Union for Reform Judaism’s Religious Action Center for more than 30 years.[2] Saperstein succeeded Rabbi Richard G. Hirsch as leader of the Washington D.C.-based political lobbying arm of the North American Reform movement. There, he advocates on a broad range of social justice issues. He currently co-chairs the Coalition to Preserve Religious Liberty, and serves on the boards of the NAACP and People For the American Way.

Melissa Rogers: Served as chair of the President’s Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships

Ricken Patel: founder of avaaz.org, leftist activist organization (current headline on the site as I read it now: NO MORE OFFSHORE DRILLING! [Really guys? No more offshore drilling?]

Rev. James A. Forbes, Jr.: Forbes’ new book, Whose Gospel?: A Concise Guide to Progressive Protestantism, provides insight into the views espoused by the progressive movement and how it aligns with the Bible. Forbes took a moment to discuss what, in a nutshell, the movement means, and to touch on a couple of its hot-button views. –christian johnson

He also hosts a show in Air America.

Sister Catherine Pinkerton: A lobbiest for NETWORK, a national catholic social-justice lobby in Washington, DC. The link includes her prayer at the DNC in 2008.
Yes, that’s a broad array of social-justice progressive people. Not exactly a cross-section of religious America. It’s basically a blend of religion and politics and an extension of the White House. Why you would care what this group says is beyond me.

Oh, and before you respond, you did read the first link, right?

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You mean the one defending Glenn Beck written by…Glenn Beck’s executive producer? Yeah, that’s an unbiased assessment of the Beck/Wallis situation. :rolleyes:

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You can’t be progressive and a preacher at the same time?