Maybe he (Bush) thinks we’re too fucking stupid to notice.
Hardly logical - when Bushco have had people scouring Iraq for these ‘invisible’ weapons since they invaded.
As a matter of interest, how many WMD has the USA got hidden away [both in the USA and around the world]?
I think that both the American people and the rest of the world would like to know - and have a right to know the answer to that question since the Iraq fiasco - but I’m not holding my breath waiting for the answer anytime soon.
That’s our little secret. Pffffft! 
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Hardly logical - when Bushco have had people scouring Iraq for these ‘invisible’ weapons since they invaded.
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I just had a frightening thought. What if Saddam has cloaking technology? Right after his amazing escape (transporter pad) he is going to launch his invisible starships.
I think SnakeSpirit is right here. I think the duplicity originiated solely within the administration.
However, the GOP are hardly less complicit for the way they leap to defend the lies.
In the months leading up to the war, Iraq did not stall or harrass the U.N. inspectors in any way, shape, or form. They let the inspectors go wherever they wanted to, and enter any facility they wanted to. Turns out they had nothing to hide. Just like they said.
So they couldn’t produce any evidence to back up their claim that they had destroyed the remaining weapons. Big fucking deal. Turns out they really did destroy them, didn’t it? If not, where the hell are they?
We went to war against a country that was no threat to us whatsoever, primarily because they aren’t good bookkeepers. All Hail the Leader!
Where no one has looked. And if you have evidence that they destroyed all their WMD, why did you wait till now? We could have used you two years ago.
The cry of the truly desperate.
Master, where shall I search for the WMD? Grasshopper, you must look where no one has looked. I keep telling you guys, The Prez has a new “excuse of the day” now. Food for Oil. Everyone believed The Prez when he said Iraq had WMD and nukular things, why not believe The Prez not that he says there are none? After all anyone who doesn’t blindly believe The Prez is a traitor, acording to SOME people. The very fact you all keep bringing up the now nonexistent weapons mankes you all very bad freedom hating America hating baby eaters (or something).
Come on, Bush can’t distract us with Food for Oil and You can’t distract us with your peurile insults.
Do you have the evidence? Or don’t you?
Can you back up what you say? Or do you only have rectal vocabulary?
George W. Bush has just said that Iraq doesn’t have any WMD. He’s basing that on an exhaustive search by U.S. forces and by analysis from the CIA. Saddam had WMD at one time. There aren’t any there now, and it doesn’t look like there have been any there for several years. I can draw only one conclusion from those facts: Iraq destroyed whatever WMD it still had left. How do you account for these facts? Where did the WMD go? Magically transported to Venus, perhaps?
Please don’t tell us that the WMD are there, but just well-hidden. If you believe that, it makes you truly unique. Not even the folks who took us into this war are still making that claim. Our forces have been swarming all over that place for over a year. Our spy satellites have been taking aerial photos of every inch of that desert for well over a decade. The stuff isn’t there.
Even more striking, and frankly more surprising, is that we haven’t even found the industrial infrastructure one would need to produce any WMD. This is what makes the adminstration’s new line, that Saddam had the desire to obtain WMD, so pitiful. Every tinhorn dictator wants to have lots of nasty weapons, primarily so that he can keep himself in power (I note, in passing, that Saddam’s reported remarks on the subject all revolve around the necessity to have WMD to fend off attacks from the outside, from the U.S., from Iran, from whomever - I don’t believe he ever mentioned using them to attack anyone - very interesting).
Even with all that desire to obtain WMD, and even with sanctions that were riddled with holes (lots of corruption investigations coming up), Saddam not only couldn’t get any WMD, he couldn’t even put together the means to manufacture any. A paper tiger.
No, because it’s something against their interests to admit - so they would avoid doing so if the evidence wasn’t overwhelming.
And given this administration’s record of being willing to ignore strong evidence that doesn’t suit them, the fact that they consider the evidence to be overwhelming in this instance strongly suggests that it is overwhelming indeed.
Given what the polls say, “thinks” could probably be replaced with “knows”.
I believe them to be hidden in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat. Have we looked there yet?
OK, OK - you got me. I admit it.
All of Iraq’s Weapons of Mass Destruction are hidden under the bed in my spare bedroom. The Iraqi government sent them to me when it became clear that our Fearless Leader wasn’t going to back down.
I had completely forgotten about them until I was looking for the cat, took a look under the bed (we rarely use the room) and came across 20,000 vials of anthrax, 300 tons of nerve gas, and 16 nuclear scientists working on processing some spent fuel rods.
I tell ya, the things you find under your own bed.
Saddam Hussein had the intent to produce lethal dust bunnies. We were clearly right to invade!
Saddam was breeding atomic dust bunnies? :eek: We HAD to take him out!
Lifted from the (the admittedly biased) Democrat Underground website. I hope it’s legal to paste this here, if not, please delete it.
All text is verbatim from senior Bush Administration officials and advisers. In places, tenses have been changed for clarity.
Once again, we were defending both ourselves and the safety and survival of civilization itself. September 11 signaled the arrival of an entirely different era. We faced perils we had never thought about, perils we had never seen before. For decades, terrorists had waged war against this country. Now, under the leadership of President Bush, America would wage war against them. It was a struggle between good and it was a struggle between evil.
It was absolutely clear that the number-one threat facing America was from Saddam Hussein. We know that Iraq and Al Qaeda had high-level contacts that went back a decade. We learned that Iraq had trained Al Qaeda members in bomb making and deadly gases. The regime had long-standing and continuing ties to terrorist organizations. Iraq and Al Qaeda had discussed safe-haven opportunities in Iraq. Iraqi officials denied accusations of ties with Al Qaeda. These denials simply were not credible. You couldn’t distinguish between Al Qaeda and Saddam when you talked about the war on terror.
The fundamental question was, did Saddam Hussein have a weapons program? And the answer was, absolutely. His regime had large, unaccounted-for stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons–including VX, sarin, cyclosarin, and mustard gas, anthrax, botulism, and possibly smallpox. Our conservative estimate was that Iraq then had a stockpile of between 100 and 500 tons of chemical-weapons agent. That was enough agent to fill 16,000 battlefield rockets. We had sources that told us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons–the very weapons the dictator told the world he did not have. And according to the British government, the Iraqi regime could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as forty-five minutes after the orders were given. There could be no doubt that Saddam Hussein had biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more.
Iraq possessed ballistic missiles with a likely range of hundreds of miles–far enough to strike Saudi Arabia, Israel, Turkey, and other nations. We also discovered through intelligence that Iraq had a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas. We were concerned that Iraq was exploring ways of using UAVs for missions targeting the United States.
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We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories. And we found more weapons as time went on. I never believed that we’d just tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that country. But for those who said we hadn’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they were wrong, we found them. We knew where they were.
My comments… Notice that last paragraph. "We found them and were finding more. Now they don’t exist, acording to the same people. If “we” knew where they were, does that mean “we” lost them? Unfortunately for Bush and friends, some people do have more than a 3 second attention span.
What documentary proof would have been acceptable as a record that these alleged WMD have been destroyed?
Does anyone at all have the slightest belief that any documents presented to Hans Blix would have been treated as genuine ?
Let’s imagine the scene eh - Hans Blix turns up at some site as specified by US ‘intelligence’(oxymoron if ever there was one), and he is presented with a book of counterfoil recipets, those receipts detail the dates, substances and quantities of materials destroyed, and they are countersigned by Saddam Hussain himself.
Do you really believe that Bush and his fraggle rock family of government muppets are going to accept this or do you think perhaps they might just say this is a hoax ?
I’ll give the hard of thinking a clue here, the WMD did not exist, Bush now admits this but still says the invasion of Iraq was justified on the basis of imminent threat.
Just what was Hussain going to do ? E-mail pictures of camel dung to US citizens ?
What a shower fo fucking idiots all you right wing tosspots are, you are still making up justifications for your complete and utter stupidity because you don’t want to accept that you have been led willingly by the nose by a corrupt bunch of lying murderers.
…and saying that Hussain is a lying murderer and needed to be taken out does not in any way shape or form, justify becoming lying murderers ourselves.
That was my point. People insisted on believing Bush and Cheney despite the total lack of evidence. Now they refuse to disbelieve Bush and Cheney, despite the presence of evidence. My post above is a “refresher” of the lies that were being told. They hadn’t just said Saddam had weapons, they had claimed they found them. Now, they simply changed their alibi (again), because they got caught (again).
I fully expect that sometime this evening in St. Louis our President will say “The United States had to invade Iraq because Saddam’s mouth was too big for his head.”
As soon as the President makes that statement 4.8 out of every 10 American voters will stand up and cheer and a raft of the usual suspects will turn up in these threads to announce that the size of Saddam’s mouth in relation to his head made it necessary for America and the coalition of the willing to invade Iraq in order to protect Western Civilization from tin pot, toothless dictators with big mouths – all the more so in this Post 9/11 World ™. We will argue with the usual suspect as if the big mouth-small head justification is rational in this or any alternative universe.
All I want is for someone to give me a plausible and factually supported reason, motive, objective for the decision to rush to war before the weapons inspectors had finished their job and while they were in the middle of doing it. Why was there no alternative and why the rush?
I’m afraid I know the answer.