Cindy McCain comes out in favor of SSM

Good on ya Mrs. McCain - actually Mrs. and Ms. McCain as their daughter Meghan is participating in the same effort.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/nov05election/detail?entry_id=55696&tsp=1

I like S&M too!!

< applauds >

Good for her.

From just about everything I heard about Cindy McCain, I am assuming there is some self-serving motive behind her newly-enlightened stand.

Are you saying Cindy McCain is gay?!?! :eek:

:wink:

a. Such as?
b. So what?

If she’s doing it in part because she thinks she’ll get an honorary doctorate from Gay University I don’t really care that much - it’s still (IMHO) the right position to take and I admire her for doing so at direct odds against her own political party and her own husband.

I applaud her for this . . . but that doesn’t mean I have to like her.

I applaud her for this, but it would have been more courageous for her to have done so prior to the last election. It’s easy to be bold when there’s nothing on the line.

Ever consider that she may have just recently had a change of heart on the matter? Not everyone is as certain about things as those on the left are.

I was about to say something along the lines of “duh” until I realized we were discussing the Senator’s wife, not their daughter Meghan. Good for her, although of course she was in a much higher profile position a year and a half ago and said nothing about it.

This, minus the hint of snark.

I think it’s important to be gracious towards people who see the light on these issues. I mean, it really is blindingly, stunningly obvious that there’s no good reason not to support gay marriage - but we lived in an almost universally homophobic culture as recently as about forty years ago or so. People who grew up in that culture will often have very strange ideas about gay people bouncing around in their heads, and it takes an effort to get past them.

So, the sensible thing to do is be genuinely nice and appreciative towards those who manage it, and demonstrate to those who’re on the fence that no one will hold it against them if they admit they were “wrong” previously.

Her daughter says she didn’t have a change of heart.

That’s from an article published in August 2009. Meghan McCain didn’t say anything on the issue at the time either as far as I know, and good for both of them for speaking up, but it’s true that their opinions would have mattered more at this time in 2008.

I disagree with those who said she should have spoken up earlier. There’s such a thing as loyalty to your spouse, and that includes at a minimum not undermining his or her political career by publically announcing opposition to his or her positions on hot-button issues in middle of the most important campaign of his or her career.

If she had done it she’d be a first class jerk, IMHO.

She also could have spoken up at any earlier point in his career, since they were married in 1980. And I think it would improve the maturity of our political campaigning if candidates’ spouses didn’t have to toe the party line. I’ll point out that the Clintons did have a moment a bit like that during the last campaign (the topic was torture, and it came from a late 2007 debate) and it did not kill Hillary Clinton’s campaign.

It wasn’t an important issue until recently.

True, but the real truth is that what a candidate’s spouse thinks is irrelevant to anything, and it logically shouldn’t even be reported. The main reason such things get reported is because they undermine the candidate to some extent.

It’s been a story continually since 2004.

I’m not sure the logic of it matters. It’s not like this is going to change a lot of minds.

So, she comes out in favor of SSM and. . . it isn’t good enough?

Oh, for crying out loud. Good on her is what I say. I don’t care what her reason for doing it today is or not doing it a week ago, a month ago, or 10 years ago. Any voice in favor of what’s right is a voice we need.

This should not come as a surprise. It happens all the time.

“Why, she should have come running out of her mom’s crotch wrapped in a rainbow flag and glitter! Anything less is just totally unacceptable and proves she’s a big giant homophobe!”