Clarification re: junior modding

I’m not good enough to junior mod; any rules against sophomoric modding?

Hey we get plenty of that already from the Pros.
:smiley:

Isn’t Junior Modding a NASCAR driver?

Naw, man. Junior Modding was that big guy on Hee-Haw.

Q.E.D. has posted the links in question elsewhere. Take that as you will.

Like so many things, we know it when we see it… and we don’t want to try to draft up a 400-page document trying to describe all details. Basically, “junior modding” is coming across as a moderator: make statements, accusations, etc that only a moderator should be making.

What’s the diff between that and simply long-term posters giving advice to newcomers? Again, you know it when you see it. Giving helpful advice or suggestions to newcomers is usually warm, welcoming and friendly; junior modding usually involves scolding, criticizing, or a holier-than-thou attitude.

And if junior modding happens once in a while, we don’t usually care. Yeah, we may warn (in public or in private), but everyone slips up now and then. However, when we see regular, repeated behaviors – when we’ve issued several warnings over a fairly short time-frame – that’s a different situation.

thanks - the part that sounds makes it clearest to me is

It’s all right here in the junior modchuck guidebook. Don’t you all have your copies?

That was Q.E.D.'s problem, he wouldn’t pony up the initiation fee. The correct term is *JMWAL.

FTR, I like Q.E.D. He’s too sharp sometimes and I’ve even called him on it before but mostly I think of him as the drunk, curmudgeony old uncle in the corner at the party talking smack about the whippersnappers.

*(Junior Modding without a License)

My dog ate it.

From this maybe?

Just a guess.

Junior meta-modding!

To add to what Dex said, I think these things are usually cumulative.

That thing reads like stereo instructions…

You suspended Q.E.D.?

Riding high on the list of incredibly stupid, self inflicted wounds the board’s administration is hell bent on achieving before the weekend this one ranks right up there.

I’m curious to see how many mods/admins opt to disassociate themselves with this board given the recent administrative behaviour.

That happened before things blew up yesterday – and my reaction to it was to shoot off a PM thanking TPTB for doing it. He’s an officious SOB and I’m glad they finally called him on it in a way that will, I hope, get him to cut it the fuck out.

Though I’m not going to hold my breath.

Okay, that makes sense. I’m usually only holier-than-a-few-schmucks in my advice givings.

I’ll put the over-under at zero. Unless you’ve got some inside info I don’t have access to. :wink:

Maybe if you said it in a jerkish way. Look: this is not a new wrinkle on a rule where everybody has to watch what they say. If somebody forgets to link to a Staff Report and you tell them it’s customary to do so and link to the column yourself, you’re not going to get warned for junior modding.
Most of the time this is not something that even draws a warning. The usual response to junior modding, in my experience, is a mod note saying ‘you’re junior modding, stop it, we can handle it.’ If you (hypothetically) keep doing it after mods and admins tell you repeatedly to stop doing it for an extended period of time, eventually it turns into an issue that has to be dealt with. It’s that much worse if you’re posting as if you have inside info and are actually giving out misinformation.
If you think you made one post someplace that might sound a little junior mod-ish if read the wrong way, you don’t need to sit back and worry you’re about to be suspended.

Linking to the rules in response to a question isn’t junior modding. It’s all in how you talk to people, but I don’t see how that could qualify.

No, that’s just expressing your opinion.

There’s not much to add to what Dex already said about this and mlees’ summary works, too.

Because obviously these should all be reserved for real mods. :rolleyes:

So, is it okay to adopt a scolding, criticizing or holier-than-thou attitude so long as it doesn’t concern board rules, format, traditions or etiquette?