Clinton supporters: what, if anything, would convince you she should voluntarily withdraw?

Yep the fact that she gave non-cleared people access to top secret information just comes with the experience of being the most qualified Presidential candidate ever. All that experience gives her a free pass for committing an act that many have gone to jail for.

She’s doing pretty well given that scandals is a norm in politics!

She’s one of them. Not as bad as Trump. But hypothetical Hillary could still do things that would make it impossible for me to hypothetically vote for her.

We had several decent, scandal free, Democrats oppose Hillary this year. She beat all of them. Apparently, she’s not as disliked as you seem to think.

Sums up Clinton supporters. Anything short of her eating babies will just be brushed off as the ol’ Republican political smearing that every single democrat has gone through! Nothing new!

Who cares that she was caught lying about every single statement she made in defense of her email scandals. Who cares that she was sent top secret information to non-cleared individuals. She wasn’t indicted and that’s all that matters!

What was the result of her sins? How was the intelligence community damaged? How have US interests suffered?

No, every single Democrat has not been smeared as the Clintons have. The Republicans have been after them for decades & nobody cares but right wing idiots.

Hillary was the best Democrat running. (Hey, Bernie, convince some of your young progressives to get to work, to ensure a wealth of fine Democratic candidates in the future!) She was far better than any of the Republican mediocrities & grotesques–especially the one who beat them all…

She has a unfavorable rating as she* is* the frontrunner and has been for months if not years.

Rest assured the Karl Rove Hate machine is ready to spew forth lies and propaganda about any potential Dem candidate.

Might bring her the gun vote.

OP, please provide us with some reason to share the presumption in your opening sentence.

An answer to the thread title would be he discovery that she has been diagnosed with an incurable, untreatable disease, one which has an invariant prognosis of morbidity within twelve months.

I think the OP’s presumption in the first sentence is correct - Democrats would prefer any Democratic candidates over Trump. :wink:

OK, she doesn’t run, for whatever reason. Replace. Joe Biden, Lizzy Warren, Rachel Maddow.

The answer is very simple. If I decide that voting for a different candidate is likelier to influence the world in a better fashion, she’ll lose my support.

There are lots of reasons why Clinton might have to withdraw. But the OP is being naive is he thinks unlikeability would go away as an issue.

Do you remember any past elections? At this point in his campaign, John Kerry was being accused of murdering babies. Al Gore was accused of secretly working for China. Barack Obama was accused of being an Kenyan Muslim. Bill Clinton was accused of running a Columbian drug ring.

This has become standard politics. Any Democratic candidate is accused of outlandish crimes. If Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden or Martin O’Malley were the nominee, there would be outlandish accusations against them as well.

It’s already started, right-wing mouthpiece going off:

Yeah, if she shot somebody on the Avenue of the Americas or Broadway, the media would just cover it up. :stuck_out_tongue:

I can think of a lot of people on Fifth Avenue who need shooting. If Hillz brought an AK-47 for the job, her poll numbers would skyrocket.

Bernie? We’re not talking about Bernie. Bernie lost, and endorsed Clinton. That does not make Clinton a viable general election candidate.

And my guess is MOST Americans would prefer any Democratic candidate over Trump.

Can you imagine Candidate Maddow in a debate?

Popcorn ready, beer on ice, and phone disconnected. Now, Universe, I know I haven’t been a very good pantheist, but if you could just give me this one huge miracle…

:dubious: Cults of personality are almost standard in US presidential campaigns at this point. Reagan & Obama had particularly glaring ones, but they appear a lot. I’m not exactly blaming either Sanders or Clinton personally for this, but Democrats have specifically tried to inculcate such cults of personality around both Bernie and Hillary. Democrats want a president to come in and fix things like a lone superhero, more or less, even to the point of missing that both Sanders and Obama have called for more participation and a party that challenges for many offices.

Now, Trump has nothing else but cult of personality. But it’s hilarious that a party that basically wins when it runs on cults of personality and not when it doesn’t is pooh-poohing Donald Trump’s campaign for emphasizing that play.

I’m a Bernie supporter. Hillary is the candidate. Live with it.