That is ‘looks’ like an AK something has absolutely no bearing on whether it’s an ‘automatic weapon’ or not.
I’m sure Martin will be back to point that out; unfortunately, that factoid might get buried in his other whiling.
Edit: No, it does not look like an AK to me.
Because the guy didn’t take the police officer down in a blaze of tequila, I suppose. That and there aren’t laws against driving while under the influence of firearm. Or a lack of federal funding to states that allow firearm purchases under the age of 21.
That said, I wish the two wrongs fallacy came up in response to every piece of proposed federal legislation. That way the US couldn’t go to war until the necessity for mobilisation exceeded the necessity for regulating food consumption and exercise. In other words, after 41 9/11s in a year.
That it might look like an automatic certainly has bearing on initial reports that an automatic was involved in the shootings, don’t you think? If someone tosses something that looks like a grenade my way, my initial response might be to yell out, “Watch out! A grenade!!”. Now, if someone came by afterwards and told me that it probably wasn’t a grenade and that I was ignorant for shouting out like that before all the facts were in, I might follow up by calling that person a smug asshole.
Yeah, because they are accidents. If some dick *intentionally *plows his car into a crowd of nuns and kills 20 of them, I guarantee we’d be seeing the headlines on CNN. Maybe even Fox ‘News.’
Actually, to me it looks more like an AR-15 based rifle than an AK47, meaning it might be a Law Enforcement weapon.
ETA: Here, it looks even more like an AR15 than an AK47.
Of course, civilians in the U.S. also own AR15s.
That is certainly a possibility. Possibly the weapon of one of the victims?
No; it has no bearing whatsoever.
95% of similar weapons you will see owned by civilians in the US are not automatic. The percentage is actually probably much higher.
What it does look like iis an assault rifle. If the article had said ‘gunman opens fire on police with an assault rifle’, we would not be having this conversation.
The problem is that the words matter. The use of ‘automatic’ is a combination of willful ignorance and editorializing. The word ‘automatic’ in the story is gasonline on the fire.
If you don’t understand the difference, and you don’t understand the terminology, then shut up. It’s the same reason that I don’t try to opine on matters of physics or French cuisine. I don’t know what I’m talking about, so no matter HOW strongly I feel that I really really hate how neutrons behave in a magnetic field, I keep my fucking trap shut.
If you have strong opinions on how guns should be controlled, fine. I’m not arguing that. But if you choose to have that discussion, at least familiarize yourself with the subject matter.
Once again, jackass: The OP wasn’t giving an opinion, editorializing, speculating or displaying ignorance, willful or otherwise. The OP was merely linking to an initial news report.
And I was commenting on the news report…I realize that the OP was just using the language from the report.
Now, the speculation and willful ignorance was referring partly to the news article, but mostly to your posts.
Jackass.
That has definitely not been my experience. Using the term “assault rifle” is just as likely if not more likely to get gun fetishists into high dudgeon. A multipage dissection of the semantics will arise from that term, and will be no more informative than asking libertarians to pick a defining position.
Ok, then well you wouldn’t be having this conversation with me. I have no problem calling what is obviously an assault rifle an assault rifle.
Do you mean a burro burrow?
Breaking: Anybody who thinks that words mean things is now a “gun fetishist.”
(Cue, “but assault rifle does mean something! automatic weapon!” “This wasn’t an automatic weapon.” “I mean, any weapon that can kill a lot of people if you want it to!” “You mean, any gun as well as several things that aren’t guns?” “No, I don’t want to demonize all guns, YOU’RE the extremist here for insisting that I use words that mean things, not me!” “OK then…” discussion for the ten thousandth time…)
Cue strawman rebuttal.
Excuse me dumb ass but, as has been pointed out more than once, the only reason I used the phrase ‘automatic’ in the OP is because it was mentioned in the news story I linked to. Frankly, I could care less if it was auto, semi-auto or bolt action. The asshole killed a cop and seriously injured two law officers in addition to killing one other person and injuring another civilian. Learn to read for comprehension. YOU are the one who had the knee-jerk reaction.
I know the difference and I understand the terminology. I would suggest until you are able to understand the words you are reading in context that you shut up.
Listen dip shit, where in this thread or any other on this board have I ever expressed ANY opinion about guns and how they should be controlled? Huh? Go ahead and search so you can see for yourself what a lying sack of shit you are.
What I have expressed is my disgust for people who use guns to hurt innocent people and for the limp-dicked, pathetic gun nuts who come running to defend gun rights when no one is actually threatening them.
Must be so easy to be a gun nut. All you have to do is point to any other possible way for a person to die and say “SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE??? Are you going to ban them TOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???” Then go back to masturbating about how people are dying because of your insane fetish.
Thanks for paying attention. As you can see, I have already said that I was commenting on the use of the phrase in the article. Apart from that, I’m not sure how you construe the rest of those quotes as attacks on you.
There are other people here; assuming that I’m referring to you in every post I’ve made in this thread actually kind of makes you either narcissistic or hypersensitive.
I mean for fuck sake, I even said in the story:
You mean like the Manson family did?
Ok you got me. I missed where you said that.
I doesn’t change the fact you jumped in on the second post and the only detail you noticed was the use of the word ‘automatic’. Dead and injured cops, dead and injured bystanders - yeah, that isn’t important.
And ever since then, gun manufacturers, eager for truth in advertising, have always emphasised how when the chips are down you would do as well to rely on a simple kitchen knife.