Just don’t say anything bad about “Cop Killer”, or you’ll be labled a straight-laced ol’ fogey that just doesn’t understand entertainment. Or a fascist that wants to throttle freedom of expression. Or some damn thing.
If I were Michael Moore, I’d be thrilled that conservative pundits wanted to kill me. It would show just how threatening I was to them.
If that Bill O’Reilly quote is a death threat, then my mother threatened me with greivous bodily harm everytime she warned me that I was going to put an eye out if I didn’t stop running with scissors.
The Beck quote falls just short of threatening death, but is still highly objectionable.
Aw, come on, rjung. Don’t tell me you haven’t done like me . . . sit with a couple friends and a copy of the line of succession, figuring out how many killings it would take, and then dividing them up. How many murders would we each have to commit to get a decent president in office?
Now that Colin Powell’s not in the cabinet, the future bloodbath has grown much, much larger.
I doubt these jerks are any more of a threat than I am.
Note for the overly literal and the Homeland Security computer filing this with other threatening internet messages: I’m a liberal, so I don’t own a gun and wouldn’t know what to do with it if I had one. I’m not really planning to kill the president. But were he to choke to death on his next pretzel, I can’t say I’d shed a lot of tears.
(Note: The second one was originally offered on cafepress.com, but it appears that they must have had a lot of complaints – a simple google search will pull up lots of hits, mostly people reacting on their blogs, it seems, about this original T-shirt. And so now cafepress has changed that page to a shirt that advocates a lesser action than murder…)
I wonder what kind of shirts Libertarians make…
Nope, sorry. Guess my sense of humor isn’t perverse enough.
I just find it predictably amusing how the resident righties are trying to handwave the issue away as no big deal. Yeah, and Abu Girade was just a bunch o’ fraternity pranks, uh huh…
Um, I don’t see why it’s a big deal.
Certainly nothing on Abu Ghraib, since, you know, that actually happened . . .
Did a quick Google, there’s a bunch of them here. A few selections:
Fuck Eminent Domain
Abhorrent Things (Long list at the bottom of the page)
Democrats Tax, Republicans Spend, Vote Libertarian
Consider ignorance fought.
I just home none of these shirts were subsidized:)
You should have asked the tee-shirt wearer if he considered himself pro-life. I’m betting yes.
Other than potentially hurting my feelings, what’s wrong with the first one? It’s German for The Republican Scum, right? Meh. I’ve been called worse.
The second quote in rjung’s OP is pretty bad. The first one’s just silly–on multiple levels.
Let me retract my previous description. The O’Reilly statement is abhorrent, disgusting, illogical, wrong and tries to make an argument simply by invoking fear, but does not itself advocate murder. It does link his opposition with someone’s point of view with their death, and O’Reilly is no stranger to generally raising the spectre of death for opponents. He fantasized on the air about being in an Old West gunfight with Al Franken and shooting him “between the head,” and also promised that a hit man would be visiting Franken’s home during his telephone harrassment audiotapes.
O’Reilly is a weak-ass bully and a punk. I hope he suffers grievously from an impacted colon secondary to massive loufa blockage.
I looked, and was surprised at how many I completely agree with.
Better idea… Let him put his money where his mouth is. Old school. High noon, Main Street, old style single action revolvers. I suspect Franken might show up, and O’Reilly would be riding out of town at full speed, shitting his pants. I wonder if he would talk like that if duels were still allowed.
I bet O’Reilly would shit his pants. Very Zel Miller of you on the dueling part BTW.
I think the more appropriate reply is: “I wonder if he’ll change his mind when the police pull him out of bed in the middle of the night, arrest him with no warrant, detain him without access to lawyers or family or friends, keep him incommunicado in jail without any charges ever being made… and subject him to tortures and abuses.”
Sounds like a good plan to me. What’s good for the goose and all that.
Oh, but it could never happen to a fine, upstanding citizen like him! Only people who deserve it ever run afoul of authority.
Oh yeah, I forgot.
[Judge Dredd] The law doesn’t make mistakes![/Dredd]
“But they’re shooting at ME!”
What O’Reilly was doing was calling attention to the fact that there are still a lot of people around that just don’t get the fact that there are bad people in the world who want to kill us…and we are getting down to their level to deal with them.
Aggressively interrogate prisoners who may have knowledge of terrorist intent? Gasp!
Keep some arrests secret while running down any valuable information from people who may be tipped off by knowledge of the arrest? Horrors!
Let foreign governments know we mean what we say about harboring terrorists? Heavens to betsy!
Have the gall to think that arab males between 20 and 50 might be a little more likely to be sleepers than granny O’Grady? Such racist bastards!
As I have said in a post in another thread, it is going to take another 9/11 type event in this country for the clue to finally sink in.