If I reach that point, I rationally know that I feel that way due to the effects of what I’ve smoked/ingested and I enjoy the sensation that I’m about to die without any consequences.
Just before the pandemic we were headed to St Martin. In line for security, I remembered I had two brownies, 50 mg each, on my person (one for me and one for my gf who wanted to fly high for the first time).
I quickly ate mine (dry!) then offered my gf hers. She chickened out and told me to throw hers in the trash. I couldn’t do that. I ate hers (also dry!). As soon as we got through security we found a bar and I chugged a screwdriver.
I dozed off and woke up in St Martin. It was fantastic because by the time we deplaned I was right in the zone and stayed that way for hours.
You have far better cognitive-behavioral skills than I do. I knew rationally that I wasn’t dying, but I just can’t will myself to enjoy the sensation of feeling like one is about to die. I can’t talk myself into rewiring that reaction of my brain. Same with panic attacks (which is what this is for me). No amount of knowing that it will be over makes it any less terrifying and shitty.
When I was young, I only smoked joints or used a bong. But about 20 years ago, I ate a brownie at a party, and that knocked me for a loop.
Over the last year my crackly knees (due to years of running) turned into full blown osteo-arthritis. The pain med my doc prescribed is not for every day, but I have pain every day (especially at night). I’m considering edibles before I go to sleep. Conveniently, there’s a shop at the end of my street. Recommendations? Sounds like a small dose of indica?
I haven’t used straight-up cannabis since i was maybe 25, since I was subject to random drug testing for the better part of 20 years. Once I was at a more substance friendly workplace, I decided last year to give delta-8 and -9 a try. This was before marijuana legalization in Missouri.
For me, it is not a recreational experience at all, but DUDE, the sleep! I have always been a poor sleeper, usually because I have awful anxiety about shit I can’t do anything about. Delta-9 makes me feel like a sleepy log with no anxiety. I still know the thoughts are there, they just don’t matter.
Indica would be the standard recommendation for sleep and pain management. You may even be lucky that a therapeutic dose for you is sub-perceptive. As has been mentioned before, start slow. You can get a box of mints that are 2.5 or 5.0 mg each. Take one mint a couple hours before bedtime and see how it works and go from there.
Surveying the thread, ISTM edibles are not really appropriate for a party setting. And I don’t mean the risk of folks unwittingly eating them from a shared public tray.
The upside to booze is you show up sober at the party, start into your first drink, and the buzz is quickly on. And within reason you can modulate that up or down by pacing if you care to. (Or just go straight for knee-walking porcelain worship if that’s your style )
Looks like with an edible you need to start well before the party and by party time you’ll either be just right, too high, or too low, but with no way to adjust up or down if needed. At least not on a party-relevant timescale. Hmm.
I’ve heard that especially with your standard edibles, it doesn’t matter, and talking with the people at the dispensary, they seem to say with your standard edibles, they may as well be the same. THC is THC. I’ve done “indica” and “sativa” and “hybrid” edibles, and they’re all the same exact high with me. Now, there’s THC-CBD blends – that might be a little bit of a difference. Supposedly live resin edibles or stuff that preserves the terpenes can make a difference, but it’s so difficult separating fact from lore when it comes to cannabis.
Agree with all of that and it’s largely because real research was totally illegal for decades because of horrible policy. Some of the common knowledge is true and some is as valid as crystal therapy.
IME. We always smoke/vape during the party (and before arriving). We usually are drinking beer/wine/cocktails as well. At some point the host offers brownies/cookies/RSO(Rick Simpson Oil)/other and the party ascends from there.
For the non-stoners out there, July 10th is 7/10 and 710 upside down spells OIL. That means that hash oil, CBD oil, etc. are heavily discounted at the dispensaries.
January 5th is another one because 1/5 is the reduced fraction of 4/20.
When Pennsylvania’s Medical Marijuana Program took effect it was a huge win for me. I worked hard to convince people to vote Tom Wolf into office and once there he kept his word.
I immediately found a doctor who supports cannabis as a treatment and she documented me with PTSD. I’m very happy in the program and will tell you that my mental quality of life is soooooo much better medicated than not. I’m currently soaking in it, Madge.
If this is crystal therapy, then I’m aboard the peace train and who is anyone to say otherwise?
I collected signatures to get the first medical mj proposed law on the ballot in California in the 90s. I got a prescription for headaches.
I said some of it is like crystals. I think it’s beyond dispute that it often helps with PTSD and pain management. The claims about the various terpene levels and how different ones have different effects probably need to be researched properly before claims are made.
I’m late to the thread, but one thing for the OP to watch out for is that, IIRC, cannabis is the likeliest drug of all to lead to the risk of long-term psychosis - even more so than shrooms, LSD, alcohol, ketamine, or any prescription drug.
Of course, if he tried weed before in his youth with no issues, he may be more or less ‘immune’ to this risk.
I’ve done all in your list except ketamine, but at this point in my life I steer clear of LSD and shrooms (I might try a micro-dose of shrooms again at some point). I still “micro dose” weed because I am now a lightweight, but I feel it is the most innocuous of any of these (I’m a 5-10 mg user). I’ve done all of them, sans ketamine, at too much levels, and the alcohol just gets you to puking territory, but the LSD and shrooms get you to hours of uncontrolled wowza. I’ve done gravity bongs, hot knives, many huge bong rips, etc with weed and never been near those other two.
I just did a bit of searching and see this is reported some, but it seems to be availability versus actual risk of the drug. And I would guess those that are getting hit with the psychosis are doing a ton of it and not the lower levels. I’m unedumacated here, but I found other drugs more scary, brainwise.
Severe vomiting happens with some chronic users, that can get bad enough for them to be in real medical trouble.
We’ve been seeing some people, usually first timers, with rapid heart rates, sustained into 140’s. That has the potential to be real medical trouble, but I don’t think I’ve personally seen it go bad.
And we’ve been getting people who took too much out of the gate, or took some, didn’t feel anything, took more and are now freaking out. While there are lighter options available, it’s not always clear enough that some are like beer and wine, and some (maybe most) are like Everclear and Long Island ice tea’s. They usually describe symptoms of anxiety and panic attacks. They mostly get Ativan and observation. I don’t think I’ve seen one of these that was in real medical trouble.
I don’t think I’ve seen anybody get admitted to the hospital except in the vomiting ones, and rarely those. Most get treated and can go home.
I am not advocating for or against responsible use.
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