To repeat myself : There is no evidence for any version of God. That is precisely why religion is referred to as “faith”.
You also have no evidence God is important, assuming he exists.
Help, mommy, I’m scared.
Personal opinion? Well, for one, feeling a compulsion to kiss Hank’s ass is unhealthy. So is doing right by my fellow man for the sole purpose of getting Hank’s mythical million dollars. Denying people legal rights because some ancient book says they’re icky strikes me as pretty absurd. And disbelieving one of the most robust theories in town because I want mythical Hank to comfort me when I’m dead just sounds stupid.
That’s the short list.
Thank you. But I stole it from Ann Druyan, and mangled it from there.
Ann Druyan? I like her. She’s hot.
Hey, now that Carl’s gone, you think I got any kind of shot with her?
I am not sure what objective reality would look like. If there is an objective reality there would be no objective observers to observe it. Even some scientists are now understanding their expectations color their research.
The laws of physics are interesting, they show precision order and timing. What or who do you think monitors and corrects the deviations. I think a Higher Intelligence does so.
Look around you and in a mirror you will see evidence of God. What you say is your opinion, until your show cites.
I have no idea what you said or why you said it. Nothing in my experience anywhere like it. I would agree or disagree if I know what was said.
I think there is some tension between your first and second sentences.
hehe… 3 pages now… talk about hijacking my thread ! 
Well Lekatt… obviously the idea of intelectual honesty is alien to you. Believing just to believe seems much worse than blind faith somehow.
Also its not God that heals… but belief in a God. In a way I agree that ignorance is bliss… but I chose otherwise.
Read this for the Hank references. But I’ll translate:
“Well, for one, feeling a compulsion to kiss Hank’s ass is unhealthy.”
To heap praise on and love with all your heart a being that is most likely mythical and otherwise very cruel is stupid.
“So is doing right by my fellow man for the sole purpose of getting Hank’s mythical million dollars.”
I try to treat people right because it’s the right thing to do. I don’t expect to get a pass into Heaven for it.
“Denying people legal rights because some ancient book says they’re icky strikes me as pretty absurd.”
The Bible says it’s bad to be gay. The Bible is simply wrong about that.
“And disbelieving one of the most robust theories in town because I want mythical Hank to comfort me when I’m dead just sounds stupid.”
Denying evolution because I want to believe in a god is wishful and cloudy thinking. And all sorts of illogical.
Look out the window.
There are no deviations from the laws of physics. Therefore there is no need for anyone/anything to “monitor and correct” the deviations. I’ll grant that there are laws of physics which aren’t fully understood or explored right now; there are deviations in the measurement of the phenomena which are manifestations of the laws of physics (due entirely to our imprecise instruments). But there simply aren’t any deviations in the laws.
A guy can fill the dustbin of his head with all the metaphysical trash he wants, but it doesn’t change the objective reality of the world.
I look around me and see no evidence of God, gods, spirits, souls, magic, fairys or unicorns. I look in a mirror and see I need to comb my hair.
And I don’t need to provide cites, because I’m not claiming the existence of anything; you are. Besides, I’m saying that there is no evidence, that there is nothing to cite; how do I provide a cite that there is no cite ? Provide proof there is a God. Provide a cite for that.
OK, I agree with you, but what does it have to do with God.
You’re joking, right?
Your post was a contradiction. How do you know there are no deviations if your instruments can’t measure them.
I had hoped someone would want to define a God for themselves, or start a new thread on it. It didn’t happen so I will quit posting in this thread.
You guys are something,
Well, yeah, if you believe in that God.
Like I said, I was just using a “what if” to lekatt, to try and reach him through the New Agey smoke.
lekatt, what do you have to say to those of us who look out of the window and see the hand of God in evolution, hmmm?
Ah yes. As I understand your point of view, we are supporters of science and thus must be opposed to religion because, in your opinion, a scientific mindset and a religious mindset cannot exist within the same mind. They do coexist in mind and many of the most religious people I know also have scientific mindsets.
As for defining God, to me God is completely and utterly transcendant and infinitely beyond mere human comprehension. I have somewhat less ability to define God than an ant has to define air, and I would not presume to do so.
CJ
Intelligent post. You did define God for yourself.
You know, I am always amazed at how my posts are spun into the theories, opinions, and wild assumptions of “what I really meant.” Actually I said what I meant and nothing more than that. Not one posting on this board knows what I believe, who I am, or what I am trying to do. Not one.
I must leave this thread, it has been hi-jacked enough. If someone wants to discuss the definitions of God for themselves, start a new thread. I won’t start a thread because that would require too much of my time tending it. I have other chores.
Yes, it certainly has been-BY YOU. :mad: