CSI: Is That Really It?

I just watched my first episode of “CSI: Crime Scene Investigation,” and honestly, I don’t see what the big deal is.

A predictably transparent plot, thin, meaningless character development, and cliched dramatic devices (right up to the child inexplicably trapped in a sinking car and the mysterious dominatrix). Overdone, glitzy editing, useless effects shots, and pointless t-and-a shots, along with lots of “beautiful” people. Couple that with the fact that its set in my least favorite city, Las Vegas, and all in all we have a loser of a show in my book.

Now, I did the same thing with “X-Files” a long time ago – I saw an early episode on the recommendation of several friends, and I thought it was more lame than a bad episode of “Night Gallery.” I didn’t go back to it for a couple years, it was so bad… but once I did try again, I became a big fan of the show. Turns out that the first episode I saw happens to be one of the worst episodes in the whole series.

Is that what happened here? Did I see the worst example of this show that so many people seem to like? For what it’s worth, I saw the one in which Marg Helgenberger’s ex-husband is killed and her daughter is trapped in a car, while everyone’s investigating two killings that are related to a Vegas dominant/submissive sex service. The proprietor of the sex service was “Lady Heather.” Also, the episode was an hour and a half long, for some reason. Is that just a really bad episode? Should I give it another shot?

I wasn’t aware that Jerry Bruckheimer was behind CSI, but having seen this episode, I can’t say I’m surprised. The show definitely had his rough handprint all over it. Unless someone convinces me otherwise, I won’t be going back.

NOOOO! Why did that have to be your first episode?! Please, please, don’t judge the show by that episode, I HATED that episode. I guarantee you the rest of the series is nothing like that; much less pointless family controversy (e.g. none) and a lot more emphasis on cases (as it should be). Please try the show once more!!

Allow me to reiterate just how terrible that episode I was. Grissom (the main character), acted completely out of character (in my opinion) and the show DRAGGED. It is nothing like the rest of the series and was obviously utilized merely for sweeps (hence the hour and a half plot line)

That episode was somewhat atypical.

Usually, there are two different cases that are pretty much police procedural mysteries, though the police in this case is the crime lab. They piece together clues, and the solution usually hinges on the interpretation of the data. There are false leads and dead ends, and it is usually tricky to figure out who the guilty party is.

I hated that episode, too. I just didn’t buy that Grissom would be tempted by Lady Heather. Yeah, he’s only human, but he’s a true professional and there was evidence that she was the killer…Real sexy, right? :rolleyes:

Of course they used the exact same plot in the “little people” episode.

CSI is a well made police procedural show. When the writers attempt to showcase the characters’ personalities, they usually have a bad episode. Mainly because the characters don’t have personalities.

Nor do the actors who who portray them. They are kinda realistic like that–how many techs do you know who have ANY personality, much less a GOOD one–but it doesn’t make for great TV.

CSI is still better than many TV dramas, though. I’d rather watch it than Boston Public, for instance.

CSI works best when it’s like the original Law & Order - all clever twists and turns without the police or lawyers’ private lives interferring at all. A good CSI episode is as interesting as anything on television short of The West Wing. As everybody else has said, you started with the worst possible introduction.

I quite enjoy watching the show, but I have to think, it can’t really be like that in real life can it??

By how they all work, no one would get away with anything on Earth, geesh.

The thing I’ve never understood is: why watch CSI or Law & Order when there are scads of real true-crime documentaries on Discovery, TLC, etc? I mean, if I’m gonna watch cops without personalities, I’d prefer that they be real cops.

Because the stories suck on the real like shows :p.

CSI’s plot lines are typically very predictable. They set you up to think “X” did it, and it’s almost always “Y”. Still, I think it’s good, lite entertainment.

Oddly, I thought the Lady Heather episode was one of the best shows. I like unusual twists, and I thought it was a great idea to have Boy Scout Grissom take a walk on the wild side, even if he never actually closed the deal.

I hate to sound like broken record, but if you want good, edgy cop drama, watch “The Shield”. Boy Scouts need not apply!

Well, thanks to all for your replies. I think I’ll have to give CSI another go after all, as its almost unanimous that I saw one of the poorer episodes.

I guess it depends what you’re looking for… I like Law & Order for its format and for its twists and turns. The characters are largely secondary to that, though they can do a good character-driven episode when they make the effort. The story that followed each character the day that one of the suspects they convicted gets executed was a really good one, actually one of my favorites of the series, and there wasn’t even a case to be solved!

I’m glad I asked, anyway… last night’s CSI episode just felt like a bad one, and I had hopes that the series as a whole was better. Guess I’ll have to watch another one to see if that pans out, but it sounds like it does.

[Rant commences]

So I’m watching CSI and it’s got that typical Vegas night-time opening, y’know, stock footage of the strip etc. Then you see that yellow crime scene tape and it’s time to meet this week’s victim. You know it’s a bad one because they never show the dead guy’s face, just his sprawled lifeless body from the chest down, plus the first CSI regular to walk into the scene winces for half a second when he/she see the corpse and says something witty like “Wow, party time.” You know, something witty like that.

So the bald pudgy cop says, in his bald pudgy coplike way (pioneered by Detective Sipowicz) “Looks like he ate his gun.”
“Uh-huh,” replies the CSI character.
The Grissom shows up and some cop hands him a plastic bag with a revolver in it. “It was in his right hand,” says the cop. Grissom pops open the bag, takes a sniff and says “Recently fired, too.” Then Grissom checks the cylinder. “Hmm, all the chambers are empty.”
The other CSI character (who it is isn’t important, since at this point any of them could be playing Grissom’s straight man) says “Maybe a game of Russian Roulette?”
“Could be,” says Gris, as the music starts to rise. “Even with the odds five to one in your favor, in Vegas the house always wins.”

Theme music follows loudly while the wittiness of Gris’s comment sinks in. Of course, a suicide could be wrapped up in about five minutes, so we know that ain’t all she wrote.

Anyoo, cut to the gimp coroner. “Preliminary exam said death was due to self-inflicted gunshot wound upward in the mouth. It looks like the bullet went through the hard palatte (slow-mo effects shot of bullet crunching through red flesh, complete with lovely squishy sound effects) traumatized the frontal lobe (further shot of bullet pulpling brain matter, squishing sound continues) bounced off the inside of the skull (boinging sound effect) and came to rest behind the left eye, partly evacuating it.”
“It pushed his eye out,” observes Gris, just in case anyone in the audience doesn’t know what “evacuated” means, or has not yet been totally grossed out by the re-creation.
“Yup,” replies the doc. The bullet’s gone to forensics."

Cut to ballistics. Pretty-boy CSI (white or black, does it matter?) is asking questions of the ballistic tech; “Funny, that handgun at the scene was a .357. The slug should have gone right through the top of the vic’s head all the way to Mars.”
“Uh-huh,” replies ballistics tech, obviously an extra being paid by the word. He check the slug in a microscope. “.357? Nah, this came from a .380. Tenfolio Titan.”
“You sure?”
“Yep.”

At this point, the mystery stuff begins, and we take second commercial.

“A .380? Are you sure?” asks Gris.
“Yup,” replies other CSI character. “I’ve sent the slug off for detailed analysis.”
At that moment, the geeky tech guy walks in as if on cue. “I ran the DNA on the slug you sent me 20 minutes ago (thus revealing the miraculous pace of TV forensics). There’s two patterns on it. And one of those patterns has traces of Carpomi cells.”
“You mean lung tissue?” asks Gris, in case the audience doesn’t know what Carpomi cells are.
“Yup.”
“Hmmm, the vic in the morgue didn’t have any lung trauma. I’d better check with the doc.”

“Hey, Doc,” says Gris. “We’ve got a slug that didn’t come from the victim’s gun with someone else’s lung tissue.”
“It gets stranger, Gris,” replies the Doc (thus entering Phase 3 of the CSI plot-twist sequence, right on schedule). “I was so busy looking at the top of the vic’s mouth, I didn’t check his jaw. See these enamel fragments?”
“A broken tooth?” asks Gris (because some audience members might not know what “enamel” is).
"Yep. It looks like the bullet came downward first, shattered the third molar (lovley slo-mo shot of bullet destroying a permanent tooth) then ricocheted upward, through the hard palatte, through the brain, off the skull and down behind the left eyeball (repeat of earlier disgusting sequence, sound effects intact.)
“Hmmm,” says Gris and we go to commercial.

After commercial, two CSI techs (which ones? does it matter?) are setting up their laser-thingies at the crime scene, checking angles. They also have their supercomputer laptop with them which can effortlessly chart bullet trajectories and whatnot. All by itself, this piece of equipment would likely bankrupt the state of Nevada, but I digress. After some hemming and hawing and flirting (assuming the CSI members are of diferent genders) they decide the bullet probably came from that hill half a mile away. The bald pudgy cop says kids used to go up there and use it as an unauthorized shooting range, knocking tin cans of fenceposts and crap like that. The CSI guys decided to take a hike.

At this point, I’d like to reveal that if CSI has taught me anything, it’s never to live half a mile from anything, because sooner or later a stray bullet is going to get you. So I’ve decided to either live in the desert, miles from anything, or in a really tiny apartment, where everything is within 30 feet. But I digress.

Up on the hill they find another body, this one with a hole through the lung, and thus we are treated to a beautiful shot of a bullet punching through a human lung, which creates a lovely red aerosol spray. At this point it hits me: this is really just a gross version of The Twelve Days of Christmas with an extra trauma added at each verse.

Anyhoo, somebody shot this guy and the slug kept going and took out unfortunate vic #1. There are a bunch of shell casings around, and some of them fit vic#1’s gun, so maybe he was here earlier (CSI loves goofy meaningless coincidences, I have observed). There are also some Tenfolio .380 shells. At this point the luminol comes out (every CSI episode needs a luminol scene, and there has to be some extra on hand who can have the purpose of the luminol explained to him, just in case the audience… well, you get the point). Well, by gum, there’s lots of blood around, and not just from vic #2. There’s a splotch with what looks like a piece of thumbnail about ten feet from the body. Hmmm…

Commercial time.

Okay, time to start wrapping this fiasco up, so they run prints off the Tenfolio shell casings and trace it to some teenage sleazebag. Gris asks "Do you go to movie a lot, son? Because if you watch too many movies, you might think it’s cool to hold your gun sideways. Well, in addition to lousing up your aim, there’s also a chance, with the Tenfolio, that the slide will chop off the end of your thumb (lovely slo-mo effect of an automatic slide hacking off the end of a human thumb, as the cloud of gunpowder residue slowly spreads, complete with slowed down gunshot sound effect). “Can I see your hands?” asks Gris.

Now, if it was me, I’d tell Gris that he could see my hands when I could see his warrant, but we’ve already blown 49 minutes on this, so let’s not let legalities stop us now. The punk lifts his hands and has a big-ass bandaid on his right thumb.

“So,” says Gris. “You shot vic#2 while holding your gun sideways…” and thus begins the entire chain of events. Sing it with me now:

Chopped off his thumb,
Punched through the lung,
Smaaaashed off his toooooth.
Shot through the palate,
Pulverized his brain,
Bounced off his skull,
And pushed out his left eyebaaaalllll…

I’d stop watching this dopey show, but that Marg is so damn hot.

[rant concludes.]

Y’know, there was one thing that I actually liked about the CSI episode I saw, and this reminded me of it.

When Grissom is having tea with “Lady Heather,” and she “happens” to mention that’s she’s type-1 diabetic and uses a pressure injector for her insulin (just like one of the victims! gasp), she asks if Grissom wants to see the injector.

Grissom, who’s been listening intently, stops and says, “Yes… but I’m afraid I’ll need a warrant before I see it.” And right there, he makes a phone call for a warrant on "Lady Heather"s medical supplies, and waits until it is confirmed.

While most of the show was pretty much crap, this nice little touch actually felt pretty authentic. Even Law & Order misses that sort of detail most of the time.

That said, excellent rant Bryan… sounds like a real “magic bullet” episode. Marg Helgenberger is pretty hot, though, I’ll give you that. :slight_smile:

Me, I’m a Jorja Fox fan. I think it’s the little gap in her teeth that does it for me.

I know Fox is hot, but I keep forgetting why.

(obscure joke)

We can’t forget Marg Helgenberger! I’m not a big fan of elective cosmetic surgery but the facelift she got between seasons 1 and 2 worked very well. Her skin was so beat up (sun?) that she ended up actually looking her age instead of 70.

Major kudos to Bryan Ekers for one of the best and funniest posts I’ve read in a long time. Beautifully written, and laser accurate.

I used to be a big fan of CSI. Unfortunately, quite near the start of Season Two they had an episode with Grissom & Co. investigating a magician. This is my world, and from my point of view the episode in question could have sucked the pattern off a carpet. Even allowing for the ‘it’s just a story’ element, it was egregiously lame and inaccurate, and almost all of Grissom’s ‘profound insights’ about the life and work of an illusionist were just plain silly.

This kind of killed it for me. It made me realise that all the other episodes were probably equally bad, except I just wouldn’t know it.

However, the main reason for watching the show is Marg Helgenburger, especially any seen where she snaps on the rubber gloves and gets to work. She’s always worth watching. In fact, I’d scrap the rest of the show. I’d just have “50 minutes of Marg snapping on the white latex and pretending to do scientific gizmo stuff”. That’d be enough for me.

And putting aside any pretense of discussing the thread topic, when are they going to release a China Beach DVD box set? Don’t they realize what a huge Marg Helgenburger fanbase is awaiting this day?