Dante's Action Hero Mafia

Mosier, I hear you.

Astral isn’t exactly on my list of friendlys at the moment, due to his unwarranted attacks on my posting style, but I did learn a harsh lesson last game about lurking. Hell, I’m even on that list again in this game, but it’s just the way I am.

If I post a bunch of fluffy stuff to up my post count, I get called on it. If I don’t, I’m accused of lurking. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Weeding out bottom lurkers does seem to have value in this game. That said, there’s no love lost between me and Astral at the moment anyway, so I’d switch votes if I thought it would help, but I think we’re down to the wire here and really need to have a kill of one kind or the other to progress the game and open up the analysis a bit.

Plankton has been MIA, recently.

Scum? Problems? Not sure entirely, but we really need a body or two to move on, game-wise.
As I mentioned before, Mosier, I generally don’t get a scum feel for you, and that’s why I didn’t pile on before. We’ll see if I’m still kinda dense on these matters as the game unfolds.

Other players MMV…

Plum, a few have added you to their scum list, and I understand why.

I’ve been asked to articulate my thoughts more clearly, and, honestly, I am trying to.

My current short list has bottom lurkers like Plankton on it, Astral, for slamming me so hard early on (yeah, I know, revenge voting…), but still, and Tomba, somewhat, for continuing to go after Mosier, among other things.

I know no more than everyone else, but we have a small window of opportunity here as Town.

Let’s use it.

OK, I have some catching up to do, so let’s get started.

First, to those that have been looking at/asking about my non-vote from yesterDay

So let me explain what I was thinking here: It was late in the Day, time was getting short. I didn’t have any any real suspects (I didn’t agree with the case against Mosier) and I had to make a judgement call. I figured that with our narrow margin of error, it would be better for town to avoid a mislynch and wait until the next Day when we had more info.

Okay, Sario, do you feel you have enough info to vote for a lynch today?

I’m back in the morning. I agree that it would be better to lynch a good scum candidate over a lurker, but I don’t feel that we have a candidate that could get enough votes. Instead, I’ve cast a vote for a lurker who hasn’t contributed to the scum hunting and may be scum. Best case, we get lucky and hit scum. Worse case, we lost a townie who isn’t adding much to the cause. This is a reasonable lynch.

Well, that’s 4 votes for Plankton, with Tomba possibly joining in. Voting ends at 2 p.m. EDT, so there’s time to consider and reconsider.

Good Morning, players!

VOTE COUNT
Suburban Plankton -** 4** (Hooker Chemical, Professor Pepperwinkle, Sangfroid, Plumpudding)
Astral Rejection -** 1** (Mosier)
WF Tomba - 1 (Mahaloth)
6 votes required for a lynch. Less than 5 hours left in the Day Phase.

Play on, players!

Just popping in to say I’m off to a lecture. Hopefully I’l have time to return an hour before EOD.

All right, my proposal to lynch Mosier for info has been largely ignored, so let’s get rid of a lurker.

VOTE SUBURBAN PLANKTON

So, who hasn’t voted yet?

Sario (who has chimed in this morning), Astral “Ronan the Accuser” Rejection and the dreaded lurking Suburban Plankton.

Continuing my attempt to glean clues from Dante’s narration, I note we’ve been informed that Martin Riggs from Lethal Weapon is in this game. In the movie, he’s a psychologically unstable cop. A good role fit for that character would be the Paranoid Gun Owner, a townie who automatically kills the first player (from either side) who uses any sort of Night action on him.

I hope Frank Martin doesn’t run into him. Or the Watcher, whoever that is.

UPDATED COUNT
Suburban Plankton - 5 (Hooker Chemical, Professor Pepperwinkle, Sangfroid, Plumpudding, WF Tomba)
Astral Rejection - 1 (Mosier)
WF Tomba - 1 (Mahaloth)
6 votes required for a lynch. Less than 3 hours left in the Day Phase.

Play on, players!

It makes me laugh every time.

I prefer Mosier, and I’m torn on Suburban Plankton, but I think SP is a good enough lynch toDay. I’ll be voting for him. I brought you guys some syrup to go with all of the wafling I’m about to do before I type “vote SP,” although I promise I’m leading you guys to what I think is a good conclusion. :smiley:


My preferred lynch is, just as it was yesterday, Mosier. I intended to vote for him toDay, but wasn’t able to finish my post until deep into last night, where Suburban’s lynch then required consideration. Mosier is my strongest scum lean, but admittedly he’s giving me far more to look at than most any other player. I don’t like that Mosier will be ending a second round of voting with a one-off vote, because he’s actively helping a no-lynch happen, and we all know what I think about that oh god I’ve written so many words about this. :slight_smile:

His vote on SP was all kinds of unconvincing yesterDay, and Mosier rode that vote all the way to the end of the day. I think the SP case is actually better this time around, and now Mosier is having none of it. There are the usual scenarios - both are town, one is town, both are scum - but with my existing scum lean on Mosier, I think this points to a possible scum SP as well. Mosier is in favor of a lynch, but he won’t help one happen. He wanted SP dead yesterDay as a throwaway vote with no chance of pressuring SP, but isn’t interested in his lynch toDay. He’s dismissive of voting for SP for lurking reasons, when there’s literally no defense of his own vote for SP yesterDay. For this reason, an SP lynch is acceptable.

The next most likely combination, I think, would be a scum Mosier just doesn’t want to be on a mislynch of townie SP, and is helping a no-lynch along. That’s tougher to gauge. Thirdly, a town Mosier just honestly isn’t feeling the lynch at all, and SP is who knows what in that scenario. Also very possible, but we can’t begin to guess until one of them is dead.

To add to that existential waffling, I’m generally suspicious of the speed with which Suburban Plankton’s lynch has appeared. It seems to me that when a lynch occurs so quickly, it’s got the scum seal of approval, which suggests we’d be lynching town. I’m specifically leaning town on most of the people who are voting for Suburban though, so I’m very wrong somewhere in this entire thought process. One of these preconditions has to be false, whether it’s about SP or Mosier, and the SP lynch will help us start to unravel which is which.

But this is one of those backwards cases I was talking about earlier. I’m suspicious of SP because of what Mosier is saying and doing. I’d be, in essence, using Suburban Plankton’s lynch to get a good clue about Mosier, which is good for me, but I didn’t want a clue about Mosier, I wanted Mosier solved. SP’s flip gives us circumstantial evidence regarding Mosier, and I think this means we as a group have only one way to play that:

If Suburban flips scum, we lynch Mosier. Easy! But if Suburban Plankton flips town, we have to accept the alternative most likely to help us win the game at that point, which is that I’m wrong about Mosier, and he’s town. This is like the Monty Hall problem, where I’d be switching my door choice after an empty door is revealed. I’d have serious heartburn about this (that scum lean ain’t going anywhere!), but we can’t lynch SP to get evidence on Mosier, and then lynch Mosier as well to confirm the evidence we just got. If we’re (read: me) wrong about this, and Mosier is town, we lose, because we wasted our lynches. I think we have to choose which of the two we want to lynch, and flat-out accept what it says about the other, because I don’t believe we can spare a lynch for both. I’d prefer Mosier, but it looks like we’ve selected SP, and that’s the next best thing at this point.

VOTE SUBURBAN PLANKTON.

OK, so both Astral and I have said that we would prefer to lynch Mosier, but we’ll take Suburban Plankton instead since that’s the way things seem to be going.

Thing is, those votes on Plankton started to accumulate before there was any serious talk of lynching Mosier today. We never really gave people a chance to consider it.

It’s late, but if we can get four more votes for Mosier lined up before EOD, I would switch my vote. How about our non-voters? Sario? Plankton, care to save yourself by helping us make a last-minute push to lynch Mosier?

I don’t think Mosier is a good lynch. I’m not sold on the case against him. If you can boil it down in the last few hours before Day Two’s end for me, that’d help, but things like the wasted Day One vote are weak evidence.

Is the rapidity of the votes a byproduct of the hastened day/night cycle? We only get two days to make a lynch happen with a majority required. It’s almost forcing a bandwagon approach. Also, Prof P had already expressed some willingness to lynch Plankton before I kicked off the voting. His jumping on the wagon once I got it out of the station was exactly what I expected.

Also, while I think a Day One lynch based on evidence so thin the lynch was essentially random would have been worse than no lynch, I think we have enough information to make our chances of a good lynch better than random. I want a lynch today, and Plankton is both viable for a majority and a decent target for the (lack of) contributions.

I think part of it could have to do with not lynching last Day… We get no obvious conversation starters and just continue the day, trying to get as much information as possible before settling on a candidate.

Plus, lynching the lurker works better than having no strategy, IMHO.

I think we got a big ol’ conversation starter in the intervention of Frank. What exactly is his ability? How did he pick the right target? Who is it? I threw my thoughts on the matter into the mix, including my opinion of who the NK block makes me think is townie (Prof P). The only other likely option is that he self targeted the protection and was also the target of the lynch. If that’s not Prof P that was the target (and therefore town), I think it implies Astral is town AND Frank and Prof P is scum. Though this logic makes a series of assumptions about Frank, his ability, and the scum’s target.