Daredevil? Anyone?

Aw, crud. Care to tell us impatient folks what it was? :slight_smile:

It was

Bullseye in traction, completely immobilized in casts and whatnot. A fly is buzzing around his face and annoying him. He stretches his fingers as far as he can, desperately, toward a tray near him with a hypodermic needle on it. Cut to outside the room, you hear a “fwip”. Cut back inside, the fly is pinned to the wall by the hypodermic.

In answer to that spoiler-boxed issue, go to this Daredevil commercial page and watch the one called “Shadow World”.

He’s not faster than a bullet, but, as the narration says, “he can dodge a bullet before it’s fired”. He may have heard the trigger being squeezed, or heard the sniper suddenly hold his breath, indications that a shot was about to be fired.

I do wish they’d kept DD’s radar sense as a sixth sense, rather than making it depend on sound. I have some very old issues in which DD lost his radar sense, but his other senses remained intact. Even when locating his enemies by their heartbeats alone, he was an extremely effective fighter. And he had to go through some re-training with Stick to get his radar sense back…

(I haven’t seen it yet)

I’ve always like to think of his Radar sense as Sonar sense. It sounds vaguely real world possible and Daredevil strikes me as one of the more plausible super heros anyway. So I guess I’ve got that to look forward to in the movie :).

If that bugs you, then what are your feelings on the fact that

it must be a pretty obscure keyboard layout to have a key marked “Print” right next to “Delete”? Closest thing to a print key on my 103 US layout is “Print Screen” and that’s two keys up, not right next to. What kind of freaky computer was he using? :confused: :rolleyes:

85 replies in, must we still put in spoiler tags?

Guys, I’m gonna spoil a few things. Mosey on down to the next post if you won’t sleep well at night after reading what I’m about to write.

First, as someone who has never read any of the Daredevil comics, I felt that they did a very good job at explaining who the characters were, but did a pretty lousy job at defining how they interacted with each other.
I mean, for someone with trust issues the size of Mt. Everest, Elektra sure took a liking to Matt Murdock quickly enough. When she unmasks him on the rooftop, she’s known him for, what? All of a week? How does she know he isn’t her father’s killer?
Kingpin and Matt barely had any screen time together. Some sort of interaction between them might have helped flesh out the characters a bit.

Second, I didn’t particularly enjoy than Kingpin lived at the end. Yes, I understood that Daredevil was proving that he was good. Yes, I understood that it represented growth as a character. Blah blah blah. How it came out on screen was “sequel sequel sequel! Must have a sequel. We already have the script lined up, we just need the money. Daredevil 2: The Kingpin Strikes Back, in theatres Summer of '04! Buy your tickets now!”

Third, Bullseye kills the Elektra’s father, with her just standing right there. He doesn’t even attempt to kill her. Yet, for some reason, they decide that she needs to die. So Bullseye goes back for her. This is days later, after the funeral even. Why? If the idea was to kill the entire family, then they had their chance originally.

A laptop? I know I’ve seen that layout on laptops before.

I haven’t seen it yet, but I’m seriously thinking about it. One thing that gets me about it though, from the trailers, is 1) Bullseye’s accent. Now, I own two DD comics, both with Bullseye, and in niether of them did I get the impression he would have a British accent. Why do movies and television shows feel the need to always have at least one person with a British accent, even if the person was raised in Boston?
2) There’s a scene in the trailer where Bullseye is throwing a ton of broken stain glass at Daredevil, yet he misses because DD is doing back hand springs? For a guy who has the skill to take a grain of rice and flick it at a bird 100 yards away and get it dead in the eye, it seems pretty pathetic that he suddenly turned into such a bad shot.
Eh, but it still sounds like fun.

Now that’s f’ing cool. :stuck_out_tongue:

Well, as Ebert said in his surprisingly favorable review of “Daredevil”:

Comic Book Guys[sup]TM[/sup] consider themselves experts on their favorite characters and protectors of the canon of those characters. The roles tend to get conflated, so that protecting the canon becomes equivalent to adhering to all of the details that experts spend their time memorizing. When a film fails to adhere to the details in all respects, it then becomes viewed as a betrayal of the canon, even if the details would have been bad film choices for whatever reason. Plus, bitching about the decisions the filmmakers made is an excellent opportunity for these guys to show off how much they’ve learned about their respective hero’s universe. And any reason is a good reason to show off knowledge, even (or especially) if that knowledge is not relevant to any broader issues.

  1. Irish accent, actually. Write/Director Johnson allowed Farrel to use his normal accent so that he could focus on the character more than voice training to learn a new accent. Yeah, he does a great American accent, but one less thing to think about. There never has been a difinitive origin for Bullseye so for all we know he does have an accent. Personally I liked it. His fame as a hitman is so renowned that crimelords will pay to fly him in from out of country to take care of diplomats (and annoying old ladies and comic book writers who screw up the best Batman story in years.)

  2. Agreed. Hey, Bullseye, he’s just flipping backwards. Aim lower.

Saw it yesterday (Snow Day! Yippee!). I liked it, but didn’t love it. A few points:

  • Even though Batman is only a few years old (10?), it doesn’t have the “play the comic book straight” feel that these new movies do. (I am inclined to chalk that up to the influence of the Matrix and the X-Men, but what do I know?) Batman uses some of the dark imagery and psychosis of Miller’s Dark Knight, but it is played over the top in most other respects. Within that context, DareDevil is a smaller, more human scale film that seriously attempts to place a superhero within a more realistic context - okay, it requires a huge suspension of disbelief on a number of fronts, but DD-the-movie’s intent seems very different than Batman-the-movie’s, and more true to the intent of a comic book.

  • DD and Spiderman both suffer from one aspect of “let’s adapt a long running book into a movie”: They cram too much in. In DD’s case we get the origin, his internal conflicts a full love-interest cycle, two villains, etc. I agree with the posters who were open to leaving the KPin closure to a sequel. I would prefer to see a smaller snippet of an existing comic book hero’s arc in the first movie…

  • I thought Spiderman did a better job showing the job Peter Parker gets from being Spiderman and also using the computer effect to visualize what swinging through the air might be like. (I was impressed when Spidey is chasing his uncle’s killer and is headed in one direction, the car turns and he shoots a web off to the right and is jerked towards that direction - it felt authentic for that moment). But I thought DD did a better job with the character’s internal conflict.

  • I was okay with Affleck. I am also a huge Jennifer Garner fan so was okay with her portrayal, but saw no need for the green contacts. She never came across as Greek - she was an athletic babe of indeterminant ethnicity - and that was okay.

  • I agree with the stained-glass, Bullseye wouldn’t miss issue. Also, if both hands were full with fragments, how could he use both hands to fire individual pieces? A minor nit, but there you have it.

All in all, a worthy movie - I hope it does well, if only to keep the whole “do movies based on comics and play them straight” trend going…

Enderw24 yes, we must use spoiler tags :).

Seriously, I can’t see Daredevil till it comes out here which isn’t for a month or so yet (IIRC). I’ve been looking forward to it for a while and since it got mostly bad reviews I’ve been reading this thread with interest.

Umm, I think you’re ignoring the “is an assassin working for the Kingpin” aspect of Elektra’s character from the comics, which is completely missing from the movie.

Nah, I said “pretty much”. Also she didn’t become an assassin until after she went and trained with the hand, so as far as DD’s first (and hopefully not last) movie is concerned they were pretty close to her origin IMO. There’s plenty of time for them to twist things around later.

Nah, I said “pretty much”. Also she didn’t become an assassin until after she went and trained with the hand, so as far as DD’s first (and hopefully not last) movie is concerned they were pretty close to her origin IMO. There’s plenty of time for them to twist things around later.

I liked it. The opening titles were pretty cool (would have been 100 times better for 10% extra effort to make them accurate, but still cool)

The sonar effect was nifty also.

I sat next to a comic book person and he said the names of the fighters DDs dad went up against are comic book people (inkers, writers, etc)

I assume people saw the Stan Lee cameo (Matt uses his can to stop him from walking into a car, SL was reading a newspaper)

Brian

I suppose the writer deserves an “E” for effort for hand-waving instead of just ignoring the issue, but this doesn’t stand up to examination. There are too many obvious applications to the stuff (e.g. temporarily restraing crooks, just like Spidey himself does) if it can be mass-produced.

Hi, I’m a super villan who wants to get spidey so I’ll just go down to the patent office and beat up people untill they tell me who invented web-fluid because I bet the inventor of it knows who spider man is. Then I’ll just go after the inventors’ familly untill he spills the beans.

With great patents comes great responsibility.