Um, yeah, but how are the police to know the boy isn’t in cahoots with his uncle? Just because he or his father says so? I’m not saying the boy should be convicted of anything. But it’s up to the courts and the DA, as others have said, to sort it all out.
Bongmaster & Maureen yes, he’s the same one from the wedding story. We’ve all given up on him getting any sense in this lifetime, and are really just hoping for damage control.
Lib Yes, it’s my stepson I will be bailing out. He’s a good kid. I had told all my children him included that if they’re ever arrested don’t waste their one phone call calling me, but in this instance this is clearly not his fault.
For anyone who’s conufused, OtakuLoki has it exactly right. All the police can do is arrest the person driving the car, this is with me right there backing him up that to our knowledge it was his Uncle’s car. I’m hoping for the best, so far we’re still waiting. Like I said the police were very sympathetic, and wrote down the address of my brother which I gave them without them asking.
Creative_Munster wanna here somethng spooky? Their birthdays are a day apart, almost makes you belive in astrology huh? she’s trying hard to get an arest record the equal of his.
Thanks for all the well wishes, this board is probably the only reason I haven’t had a stroke or something delaing with these two clowns.
But why disrupt his life while they sort? He is now incarcerated with people who have committed crimes — muggings, con schemes, rapes, murders. How will they compensate him if he is let go by the DA? Does he get some “We’re sorry” money or something? Can he, at the very least, sue his bastard uncle?
You know Lib, you sound as angry as I was this morning, your concern for him is really touching, thankyou. I know it’s possible for him to sue my brother, not that he’d get much out of that, but who knows? The long and short of it is that we’ll have to let things work themselves out, he has the truth on his side and a clean record. His bail would be set after he’s processed (that’s when he gets to make his call), so getting him out will happen today or tommorrow morning at the latest. Having been wrongly arrested before I think he’ll be safe, at least I hope so, until we can bail him out. It may even be possible that he’ll be released on his own recognizance, depends on how busy it is today I guess. It’s not fair, but it’s what we’re stuck with short of my brother going down to the police station and owning up to it, which isn’t likely unless I go after him with a baseball bat, which admittedly occured to me.
The thing is I’m realy pissed because I shouldn’t have needed to be thinking about this in the first place. Someone above asked how he keeps getting out of jail, the problem is to qualify under three strikes at least one felony has to be violent and that person has to be willing to testify at trial. As it is he gets senteced under our repeat offenders law, which effectively doubles and triples sentences for repeat offenders. So if things work out like they should, he’s likely to be gone for the next 5-10. I for one, won’t miss him a bit.
By the way, I missed your post earlier Ivylass. I don’t think he’s evil, at least not in the truest sense of the word. He is really stupid, I can tell you that. He has a victim, He’s been driving that car for weeks, so we had no reason to think it was stolen. The day he hit me when I was holding my son, after getting my son safely way, I tried my best to beat as much sense into him as I could. My Mom at the time convinced me I had taught him a lesson.
Wow, what an asshole.
lissener
No, I don’t think so. This is a man who grew up watching what happened when you kept bailing a kid out. If you want children to grow up thinking about the consiquences of their actions they need to face the results. I would bet that if stuffy’s kids are truely in trouble he would be right there, but he wants them to live lives that that wont be needed.
But would you piss on his head if it wasn’t on fire?
-lv
Not convinced. That’s a horrible thing to tell your children. What an asshole.
While I will agree that it is not something I would say to my daughter, it could work for some kids. I remember reading someone on the board ( and I have bad CRS today so not sure who) saying that his father had told him this very thing. He was kind of a wild kid, and this threat kept him slightly within the bounds of more or less straight. He wound up a Dr. or a teacher (I just can’t remember which of the two posters I think it was) Later his father said he would have bailed him out if it was real trouble. This poster said that had he known that he would have tested where the line was.
Well ecxcuse the fuck out of me! As you might noted above, being ready to bail kids out of mistakes leads to kids like my brother. This was the mistake my Mom and grandmother made all to often with my brother. Furthermore, as reluctant as I am to bring race into this, I’m going to. I’m a black man raising black kids with American Justice systems that doesn’t seem like to give us any breaks. So I’m trying to impress upon my kids the importance of staying within the law. It’s obviously not a hard fast rule as I’m alread getting ready to bail out my stepson. I tell them that to make them think of the consequences of their actions before they’re arrested not after.
My mother told us kids the same thing basically-you get yourself into trouble, you get yourself out.
It was one of the best things she could have done for us. She raised up six headstrong, stubborn kids by herself, and every one of them is now a self-supporting, decent and trustworthy person.
Try calling her an ass and she’ll likely brain you with her cane.
Sorry; we obviously see the situation differently. I can’t imagine saying such a thing to your children. IMO, anyone who would say such a thing is an asshole. Please feel free to dismiss my opinion as entirely irrelevant to you.
Just curious, lissener, but in what possible situation could you call someone an asshole and not have it be “IMO”?
Just curious: in how many Dope posts do people forget that it’s implied unless you state it explicitly?
I have to disagree. Some kids need to know that they can depend on that line holding firm.
Agreed. But telling your kids–all of them–that if they get arrested, to consider themselves orphans? So if a kid gets arrested for something he didn’t do, what’s going through his mind?
Asshole.
Quite a few, and you’re at the top of the list, but that’s hardly the point.
Orphans? Orphans?! Where the fuck do you get “orphans” from? How do you go from “I won’t post bail for you if you break the law” to “I’m going to disown you if you break the law?”
Well, taking into consideration the fact that the kid has already been arrested for something he didn’t do, and his stepdad already told him he was going to bail him out, I’m guessing something along the lines of “This really sucks, but thank God my stepdad isn’t an asshole and is going to get me out of this.”
I really don’t think you, of all people, should be throwing that around lightly.
Stuffy: Hope the system shakes you kid loose in a hurry and all this shit is quickly put behind him. Best of luck to you, and I look forward to meeting you at the DopeFest next week.
I was thinking “asshole” about the bail, too… but horrible as it is to say it, I think Stuffy’s right in saying race makes a difference. A white kid who gets in trouble for the first time has a good chance of getting a scare, learning a lesson and getting off with a warning.
If I’m raising a black male … I think that yes, he might get the same treatment. But he might not, and it’s not a chance I want to come close to taking. I’m going to make damned sure he knows that one brush with the police might ruin his life.
Fuck. I feel sick and depressed having to say that.
Sorry for the hijack, everybody, but: Miller, fuck you.
So what you are saying is “I’m calling you an asshole but it has no particular relevance to you.” Is that it? 'Round here we call that being mealy-mouthed. And stupid.