Again, I fail to see how you know the homeless person in the OP “is standing around expecting people to hand him money.” Perhaps you have scientific evidence that all homeless people “stand around expecting money”? If so, perhaps you could elucidate and I will happily apologize for my ignorance.
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Oh, and you don’t need to quote what I’ve posted, since my opinions don’t tend to change that fast…
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I know I don’t have to quote you. The reference was for other people.
You are a twit. And boring. So in this case two strikes ends the game.
I accept your concession.
:rolleyes:
Refusing to engage an idiot is not the sort of concession you think you’ve “won”
So either all homeless people, anthropologically, scientifically, “…[stand] around expecting people to hand [them] money.” or your statement that “…the homeless guy in the OP…he is standing around expecting people to hand him money.” is incorrect or you have some knowledge that “…the homeless guy in the OP…is standing around expecting people to hand him money.”
Let me quote you (in full and with emphasis) even though I don’t have to:
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Which is the difference between you and the homeless guy in the OP - you are working for your money, he is standing around expecting people to hand him money. I’d say that the latter person has zero right to expect more than a quarter, or that dime you got.
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Your problem is that I don’t mind engaging idiots. And, I have to ask this: Do you and the OP share a common brain?
i think the OP is actually the homeless guy and this thread is simply a social experiment.
Your refusal to answer a simple, logical question, meanwhile implying other people are idiots, is the sort of concession not that I’ve “won,” but that you’ve given away.
That homeless person has more value as a human being than you do, curlcoat. Even if the guy stood around and didn’t do any work, that does not mean it’s okay to treat him like an animal, like the OP did. That’s the sort of thing you do with a dog. (And I’m sure many Dopers don’t even do that.)
You know what, I’m going to give myself a Christmas present, and see how the board looks if I put you on my ignore list. I dare you to contribute enough to the board that shutting off your posts actually has an effect.
How is giving money to a homeless person (no matter how small the amount) treating that person like an animal?
Is the homeless person privy to the wealth of the person giving- how much he can afford?
This is one of the things about supposedly “sensitive” people that I’m sure I’ll never understand. Probably because it makes no sense. On one hand, you are so “sensitive” to some perceived indignity of having a coin tossed to the homeless person that you equate it with treating him like an animal. On the other hand, you decide that simply because you think you disagree with me on one point, I must have less value as a human than someone who is - apparently - completely irresponsible. Oookay… The ability of “sensitive” people to jump to irrationally negative conclusions and start firing with both barrels will never cease to amaze me. 
Snort. The lack of you is not going to make any difference to me. However, you should note that I am not making any statements regarding the value of you as a person. As an “insensitive” person, I somehow am able to make the distinction between your opinions here and your overall worth. Funny that.
If you really think you’re helping someone out by giving them money on the street, you’re delusional. the only one you’re helping is yourself because you feel guilty.
If you really wanted to help these people, get them to a shelter where they can receive real assistance
Yeah, as a longtime Washingtonian I’m going to call BS on this. Everyone knows you are supposed to tip a cabbie here. You have NEVER heard someone talk about tipping a cabbie, seen a movie or a sitcom where it was discussed, or even heard a radio drama where someone told the cabbie “You can keep the two bits, chum.” (since you’re using your age and location as a reason for not knowing this)? :rolleyes:
Okay, this thread entered tl;dr territory for me back on about page 2 or 3. But it just WILL NOT sink off the front page of the Pit. So I’m gonna remark on the thread title.
OP, why did you address it “DEAR Homeless Person:” when it’s patently obvious that you feel no affection toward this person at all?
I gave a homeless woman two bucks. Only she probably isn’t homeless, and she helped carry my bags to the car at the grocery store, because she works there. Still, I feel it was an act of incredible Jesus-like magnanimity on my part. She did say thanks and have a nice day, but I felt like she could have said it with more enthusiasm. What IS with the slightly lower classes these days?
I agree with most of your post except for one thing. All human beings deserve the same respect and dignity as the next one. **curlcoat[/B obviously has some kind of social disconnect that makes him/her incapable of feeling for others but you’re only making yourself out to be just like h/h.
I can tell from your posts that you’re not like that. Don’t let yourself fall to that level.
In this area, many of the “homeless” are not in fact homeless, so they would not want you to “get them to a shelter”. Those who are in fact homeless know where said shelters are but when it is day time they are busy panhandling and therefore, again, do not wish you to “get them to a shelter”. A few of them are also violent, so it would not be safe for you to “get them to a shelter”.
If you really wanted to help these people, you would figure out a way to get them jobs so they don’t have to live on the largess of others.
You can roll your eyes all you want, but simply because you now live in the state I lived in almost 20 years ago doesn’t mean that our experiences were the same. Particularly when you don’t even address the point I made in what you quoted.
As for your point, no I don’t remember having heard/seen any of that but even if I did, that doesn’t mean that one or two story lines translates into “you are supposed to tip a cabbie”. Experience does that, and since I didn’t ride in a cab for the first time until I was well out of WA - you know, the state where riding in a cab isn’t a daily or even weekly thing? - I didn’t have the experience of the question of whether or not to tip a cabbie until I was about 35. Even then it wasn’t really brought to my attention since that first ride was when I was in Vegas getting married and my husband paid the cab.
You feel I am incapable of feeling for others simply because I recognize that not all people are the same? I will note that I find the contrast of your last two sentences would be funny if it wasn’t so common these days.
Except for the homeless people, who are all lying, lazy axe murderers.
And yet, I never said that did I? As a matter of fact, I just got done listing three of the many different sorts of “homeless” and none of them included lying, lazy or axe murderer.
Hey, it’s damn hard work being an axe murderer! You’ve got all that sharpening to do, pre-slaughter work-outs and warm-ups (wouldn’t do to get a charly-horse right in the middle of a spree), stalking and/or waylaying of your victim, stuffing the body into trash bags, hauling said bags to the dumpster…it’s a pretty hefty aerobic work-out. So don’t be dissing the dude with an axe.
Just sayin’.
No kidding. Plus, if you don’t want to get caught, you’ve got chains and cinderblocks to haul around which is frankly exhausting, and does not provide the buff body you would expec- at least not in the traditional fashion.