Dear Miss Ogynist...Miss Andryst...Miss Anthrope...Miss thang... ahem. Dear catsix,

(My bolding).

If this is true (and my b-s’o’meter is screamin’ at the moment :smiley: ) then it might be something to do with the people you associate with rather than any inherent problem with the term ‘young lady’ dontcha think?

kam…who just adores being referred to as a ‘young lady’, because both the young and the lady bits got left behind many, many years ago. :stuck_out_tongue:

I wasn’t aware that I was speaking about juggling career and family or housework. I was merely speaking on offering seats and holding door which seems to be the topic of the thread at this point.

To be honest and within the limited scope that I am speaking of, I think the answer is yes. In this thread nearly every person that has come in and confessed to offering seats/holding doors has said that they do it simply to be nice and not of some feeling of superiority.

I’m willing to hear why you feel it is otherwise. What experiences have you had that lead you to believe that it is done to demean? How do you know their intentions?

And Catsix, my questions to you still stand. I’m very interested in your answers.

No it doesn’t, it’s contemptuous, insulting, degrading and judgmental. If you didn’t know that before, you do now. But you’re right about one thing, it very clearly describes your view on the condition of motherhood. Tell me, do you consider your mother a “breeder”? Or that you were “hatched”?

More is meant by “congratulations” to a pregnant couple than “yay, you managed to follow the dicates of biology and your egg was fertilized by his sperm, WOW”.

They’re special because they’ve made a conscious choice based upon a multitude of traits, characteristics and attributes that are uniquely human and that no other animal has.

But “special” doesn’t mean better than or above, others. You seem to be determined to put down anything you don’t like or understand.

A pregnant woman is special, but so are people who worked hard to make a career for themselves. So are many different things and accomplishments. One doesn’t take away from another, based upon so many of your posts over the years, you seem to believe that it does somehow take something away from you if you see the least little bit of niceness or good in life’s little joys. Such as a baby coming into the world.

I didn’t say you weren’t from earth, I’m not sure which poster did, I didn’t read that particular post.

And no, “pee on a stick” wasn’t foulmouthed
just tacky. Hell was foulmouthed, albeit mild.

I don’t particularly care if you swear a blue streak that is guaranteed to make a sailor blush. My point was to scumpup, who claimed you weren’t foulmouthed.

You did show remarkable restraint in that thread, though how much of that was due to it’s venue, I don’t know.

I’ve got to ask… what is up you people? Why are you so perturbed by **catsix’s ** attitudes and beliefs? My only explanation is that a strong and independent personality is somehow threatening to you.

Get on with your lives.

And that, in a nutshell is IT. Period. All this reading vast conspiracies of condescension and pity into someone’s simple polite gesture is just NUTS.

What is up is that several people were offended by catsix’s tone in that thread, in which she took a very derogatory and sneeringly condescending attitude toward people who show common courtesy. IOW, she shit all over the thread. I wish I could say it was probably unintentional, but she’s done it so frequently that I’m not able to extend that courtesy. This is the place to address those grievances.
As for being threatened by “independent personalities”: Maybe you like being spoken to in that manner and see it as strength. I see it as rudeness. Potato, potahto. But should other posters sit around and get shit on just because you personally have no problem with it?

Nope, strong and independent is a great combination. I myself am strong and independent. The problem with catsix is the outright hatred and contempt with which she views so many groups of people who don’t conform to her specifications of what a person should be.

Or for those who can’t read her mind and automatically give her the worship from afar that she believes she deserves.

There is an astronomical difference between bitterly aggressive, as catsix is, and assertive and confident. A person who truly has confidence in herself, and is assertive, strong and independent, does not need to resort to putting others down, or having a fit over imagined slights in order to make herself feel better.

pssst…why are the google ads about food and Oprah? :slight_smile:

Bitterly aggressive people say things like this:

on a web forum.

Nice to know that tashabot wants to commit assault against me for my opinion.

Oh, the irony, on so many levels! Catsix spends hours trying to pound home the point that chivalry irritates the hell out of her and here you come, on your white steed, rushing to her defense. How positively genteel of you.

Oh, but you were just trying to be NICE, not a sexist pig? Hmmm, isn’t that terribly interesting.

Oh, and while we’re at it, your notion that the only possible reason that people could be perturbed by her attitude is that she is a strong and independent “personality” is ridiculous. I can’t stand Nancy Grace and it has NOTHING to do with her being a strong and independent woman. It’s because she’s obnoxious. Gender neutral.

That would require one of us to quit posting to this thread. Let’s start with you.

What with one thing and another, I have a lot of elderly people in my life and they are the ones who use this phrase. I have never once had one of them use the term “young lady” to me with anything other than love and respect. I AM a lot younger than them. And I can only be grateful that they love me. And to THEM, “young lady” is a compliment. I don’t get it from people of my own age, or even the generations just above me…only from the elderly people I know.

Sometimes you have to take into account the meaning and intent behind a phrase or an action. Life isn’t easy, and it is a whole lot harder if a person is looking for hidden agenda all the time.

Of COURSE…if a person has a patronizing attitude when using the phrase, you can recognize it and it is offensive. All I’m saying is…are you sure you aren’t reading things into words and actions because you are looking to be offended?

I don’t know you, so I don’t know…and I am not trying to be offensive. I just think that maybe it is something to think about.

Someone was *offended * by her comments?? This is a fucking message board, for Christ’s sake. Are you saying someone was offended by comments on a… message board?

You know, I’m 38 years old. Still young, but have seen a lot in my life. And the last thing that could possibly offend me is something uttered on a fucking message board.

Some of you people need to get some lives.

And yet, you’re here, posting to a thread you believe shouldn’t even exist. Funny little thing, life.

Thank you so much! I will certainly try.

A fucking message board? Why, Crafter Man, if I didn’t know better i’d say you were… offended by Maureen’s comment. :wink:

You have nothing to worry about from her. You don’t snap at people in real life anyway.
You only snap and behave in a bitter aggressive way here, so you’re a perfect angel then.

At any rate, she said “so IF…and you snap at him”. There is nothing bitter or aggressive about recounting how a person would possibly (she also said MIGHT, not would) react to actual rudeness (as opposed to imagined or perceived rudeness, the way you do).

[quote[Nice to know that tashabot wants to commit assault against me for my opinion.[/QUOTE]
I know you have better reading comprehension than that. Don’t pretend to be unable to understand a simple premise or analogy like the one she presented.

Nowhere did she say she wanted to assault you for your OPINION. And I can’t speak for tasha, but likely she meant collective you, not YOU catsix only, you.

At nearly six pages, is it time to sing Kumbayah yet?
:smiley:

Poor CanvasShoes.

It must be exhausting typing in all those circles.

Dear lord, woman, I’ve missed you. Where ya been?

That’s a useful tool cat, if you can’t answer honestly pull the old “oh, I’ll make a cleverly disguised (to your mind) insult at 'em, THAT’ll work”.

You are not a stupid girl, merely misguided. FWIW, I agree with some of your opinions here, the one about the parking spaces for parents with small children for instance. I do NOT agree that they need to be the target of such needlessly hateful slang as “breeders”.

What most people here are saying, (but for your Knights on White Steeds), is NOT that they don’t agree with your opinion. They disagree with the delivery.

And it’s not that the delivery is “strong” or “independent”, it isn’t. It’s hateful, contemptous of almost everyone, and needlessly venomous and that, rather than any opinion you might have is what gets you into these trainwrecks so often.