Declanium is a sorry excuse for a mother.

I have never smoked weed (or cigarettes either, but then again I grew up with asthma and allergies). Can’t stand the smell and have never had the desire to get high. I drink alcohol on rare occasions, I even have my favorites, but only in rare cases to any excess and only when it’s safe. I don’t even drink sugary drinks except rarely, I’m pretty straight edge. And my brother is a long time junkie and violent criminal so I know what drugs can lead you to.

But I wouldn’t freak out over this. I wouldn’t approve but until and unless the drug use causes actual problems I do not consider it a crisis if any of my kids did weed. It is not good for you (no smoke inhalation is, I don’t care what you’re burning) and it can be especially damaging to a young mind. But if you think of disowning your kids over it you have serious problems. Your kids don’t need nearly as much treatment as you do. Seriously, seek help. I don’t say that to be snarky, but because that is not healthy emotional behavior.

And if you’re just trolling, fuck off and go die in a fire, thanks.

From my perspective, weed is no big deal, meth is much worse for you. Do you disagree? Otherwise, I don’t get what you’re trying to say.

Assuming this isn’t all a performance for the Dope, you need to get the fuck over it. What’s the other option? You’re going to go through the rest of your life not loving your kids? Your husband is going to have to sneak off to see them? You’re not going to be at their weddings because they smoked pot in high school? What’s your end game?

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Wah, parenting is hard.

Be a better person.

I should have added, my brother destroyed himself with meth and heroin. I don’t know if he ever smoked weed. Heck, if he did it might mellow him out and improve his life.

Sorry Miller, that wasn’t literal, DIAF is a common meme and I should have known not to use it here. :frowning:

I like that the risk of getting a girl pregnant and owing child support for 18 years (likely paid for by YOU until the kid gets a job) is preferable to a few joints. If you aren’t doing so responsibly, having sex can have a LOT worse and longer-lasting consequences than smoking weed.

If you’ve been following, madmonk, yes, that’s it I guess.
Cuz it’s not just disengaging because they once smoked pot in high school. It’s because the therapist sees that it has become a habit that his likely to continue. So in that case, I’m fine with missing my son’s events. And who are we kidding? He’s not getting married. He will barely be able to take care of himself. Why would he couple up? Unless it’s another pothead.

And yes, older son has already had sex. We know this. And I was fine with it. He used protection.

How the fuck did YOU manage to couple up with that ignorant hateful personality of yours?

That’s because you’re a fucking idiot who has been brainwashed by other fucking stupid idiots who got all their information from 1950’s drug pamphlets that were created by even more fucking stupid idiots.

In case you are unclear, you’re a stupid fucking idiot.

Yeah, there’s no possibility that this knowledge didn’t somehow contribute to your sons’ chosen path of rebellion.

Do you really think judging and freezing out your kids will make them stop smoking weed? What it’s most likely doing is giving them more reason to smoke it. And maybe try harder stuff because it isn’t dulling the pain of their mother’s rejection.

Does your therapist agree with how you’re treating your kids?

I realize you’re probably right. I should leave the family. I can’t imagine me getting past this incident.

The time my son stole my then husband’s credit card, he charged up thousands of dollars of electronics and clothes and fast food among other stuff. He stole the bills out of the mail, and thank God my ex always paid attention to what bills came when and called the credit card company when he didn’t get the bill. Otherwise we would have been nailed with late fees and interest and potentially trashed our credit.

Call me silly but I think that’s worse than smoking a couple blunts.

The funny thing is he’s Mr. Budget now like his dad :smiley:

Looks like we’re getting to the end of the performance.

It is because of these kind of responses that are so disproportionate and unhinged that I suspect you are giving us a performance. I could understand hyperbole when you first learned of the pot smoking, but you have had ample time to put it in perspective.

What you are saying is well outside the norms of human behavior. Well adjusted people do not write off their children because of an incident like this. I urge you to get help from a trained professional. I give the same advice to a troll who needs this kind of attention, it is not normal, get help.

I represent parents in juvenile dependency proceedings. What that means in plain English is I often defend child abusers. I have had clients who have raped or murdered their children. I have had far more clients who physically or emotionally abused their children, and far more still who have neglected or endangered their children. I have stayed up all night coming up with legal defenses for them. It can really suck sometimes. (Trigger warning 'cuz I’m gonna talk about it.)

But I’ve learned some surprising things along the way. For example, I’ve learned that the single most important factor in determining whether a social worker will ever take your kids away is poverty. We almost never see middle-class or rich families in this courthouse; when I hear of sketchy things happening among my extended circle of acquaintances, they always seem to get quietly shunted off to family court, where maybe a judge will grant temporary custody to grandma instead of the kids being ripped from their families and placed in foster care for eventual adoption. Another thing I’ve learned is that children are remarkably resilient as long as they feel loved. I’m in awe of the kids I see who survive being hit and screamed at, who continue to show up for school and fight for their place in the world. If you look closely, behind every one of those kids is someone who loves them unconditionally. But every day I’m also heartbroken to see kids falling through the cracks, kids whom no one ever laid a hand on but also whom no one has hugged in a long time. I think the former group is better off.

I’m still haunted by a case from four years ago. A teenage girl’s mother committed suicide and she was adopted by her maternal aunt and uncle; dad wasn’t in the picture. But the aunt and uncle weren’t really up to the task; they were apparently still grieving and just couldn’t open their hearts to this child. They came in to the system because they told the social worker they didn’t want her anymore. I remember sitting alone in my office, bawling my eyes out, as I read the girl’s interview in the social worker’s report. “I don’t understand,” she told them. “I try to be a good kid. I made some mistakes, but I didn’t hurt anyone. Why don’t they want me?”

Shit, I’m tearing up again just typing this.

I thought my client would come around. I thought she was just frustrated raising a teenager, and once she had some space to think, she’d change her mind. She never did. The girl aged out of foster care. I think about her often and wonder where she is, if she’s all right, if she can ever love and trust again after what my client did to her. I expect that, when I finally burn out, this will be the story I tell people about why I had to change jobs. Not the one where I had to look at autopsy photos of a two-year old with a subdural hemorrhage and bruises all the way down his skinny little back that even my expert said could not possibly be the result of accidental trauma. Not the one where I had to cross-examine the frightened thirteen-year-old outcry witness who was my client’s victim’s best friend, and who thought she was in trouble for telling the teacher now that the victim had recanted the allegations of sexual abuse. Not the one where my DV perp client physically intimidated me and the bailiff had to drag him off. I’m not saying that not loving your kids is worse than murder, rape, and violence. I’m just saying that of all the shit I’ve seen, it’s “why don’t they want me?” that still sends shivers down my spine.

So congratulations, Declanium. At least until I pick up another big one, you’re the worst parent I’ve seen so far in 2020. I sure hope their dad sucks less than you do.

Wow, EspriseMe. Because I don’t accept drugs in my kids’ lives? I’m worse than ppl who rape their kids? Ok

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Can you (Declanium) get your head out of your ass long enough not to make this all about you? Try.