De'endee Mafia

:frowning: <---- I’m a saaaaad pizza.

Edit: Oh goody you’re still here.

I shouldn’t be, but the downside of working for charity is your a sucker for a sob story.

Well, here’s the thing. The votes in and of themselves are nice, not reliable indicators for sure.

However, later, when septimus has a chance to escape death, via ShadowFacts or TexCat for the lynch, that’s when folks who were “bussing” their partner could have reversed without looking scummy for it.

I had tossed the kitchen sink at ShadowFacts, and put TexCat on my list, and they were both on the choppy block.

As such, folks could have “changed their minds” about septimus. It wouldn’t have looked odd.
But it was odd that the same people who showed up the first time to defend septimus from death, showed up again to lynch TexCat.
The vote for septimus is equal to 1 townie point (if he’s scum) Leaving your vote on septimus is equal to 2 townie points. Leaving your vote on septimus while also actively discussing, and being around at the end, is equal to 3 townie points.

Saving septimus is equal to 2 scum points. Saving septimus twice, under those circumstances, is equal to 5 scum points.

But then you also factor in hinky behavior. Of these folks, Suburban Plankton just REEKS of scum, he’s ranking about a 7 or an 8 out of 10 on the scummy scale right about now. Weedy is right up there at a 6 due to the timing. Inner Stickler I’d rate at about 4-5, but it may be coincidental. septimus also reeks, I’d give him a 6-7 on the scummy scale, but when combined together, the whole thing is a giant turd sitting in my sandwich.

You know what?

It’s time for the long pants. **I wager my head **on a silver platter than septimus is scum. I wager Red Skeezix’ head along with mine that there’s a scumbag between Suburban Plankton and septimus, if not two. Under penalty of death, I vow there are scums here.

With the septimus lynch and the Suburban Plankton assassination, we shall soon find out how correct or incorrect I am.

And, I’ll toss this in for extra super duper bonus money:

Have ShadowFacts block my ass, and have Lightfoot investigate Skeezix, and have the paranoid doctor choose between defending Skeezix or defending Lightfoot. If I’m wrong on both, you lynch Red Skeezix or myself tomorrow, and the other the next day.

Therefore, if we’re mafia, we can’t even hit you, and we’ll be freaking investigated too. How’s that?

I’m pulling out my entire sweaty wad of cash and planking it all down on Suburban Septiplanktimus. I raise you infinity dollars.

unvote Suburban Plankton
vote: septimus

Moderator: Confirming vote lock on septimus.
Eat pizza, scumbags.

Right. You do realize that if Septimus is scum, then after that end-of-day butt-saving move, it is overwhelmingly likely that at least one teammate of his would decide he might just be too far gone to save from the lynch and vote for him? And that such a teammate might be more likely than most to hold onto his vote even after the original rationale has been eroded?

Look at Mental Guy, please. I’m starting to get a complex from how often I’ve brought him up over the last several days in different contexts and had you completely ignore it even when directly asked about it.

I have not looked at Weedy’s posts in full, but my overall impression of her is that she hasn’t put a foot wrong.

Inner Stickler always acts like that; it’s almost to the point where any deviation from that behavior is what I think I should be looking for, as regards him.

The Diver vote on Septimus is interesting.

Nay!

Nay nay nay.

Mentalguy, gnarliecharlie, and several others, are on my short list for who is defending Lightfoot. As such, I have quote, quote, quote, “strategic reasons” not to be making them the discussion target.

I’ve been dropping subtle hints for rounds now that I’m trying very hard not to hit the doctor with my vote. I’m afraid until the doctor claims, I am not going to be digging around my short list too harshly.

I advocated that the doctor consider claiming, but since they’ve declined, I’m going full force at the more obviously scummy folks. Once that’s done, and those are resolved, I’ll look at my doctor list.

We resolve the doctor situation, or the septiplankton situation, and then I’ll talk all day long about Mentalcharlie. Until then, doc needs cover.

In fact,
unvote: USCDiver
vote: Septimus

Another one for the pile. One suspicious post isn’t enough at this stage of the game; it’s a pointless vote right at the moment.

unvote: ShadowFacts
vote: Mental Guy

for the other.

Still waiting on Red.

ARgh. I’m not asking you to contribute to a bandwagon on him. His chances of getting lynched today are about slim to none.

I still would rather not indicate which of several people I find more likely to be guilty or innocent there. Top priority for the scums right now is killing Lightfoot’s protection so they can get at her. And, as you’ve noted, probably aren’t going to be lynched today, so there’s little point in tossing accusations at them.

The others have made it very clear to me that they’re not the doctor; they’ve been too shouty and talky and risky with their votes, and/or have claimed something else. These are fair game.

I’ve reduced it to just a small handful, and of those players, I figure at most one of them is actually scum.

It’s a strategic decision not to press the matter. Once the current situation is resolved and the doctor feels better about claiming, if I am still alive, I’ll examine whoever you want for as long as you like. I’ll take dna samples, analyze their blood, get a midichlorian count, and stare at them until they flinch.

And, mercifully, I will be taking my leave now.

Worked last night, did not sleep as is apparent by my posts here, will open the store in a couple hours, and will also be working the evening shift.

I will then come home and sleep. You won’t see me here for some time. Pizza out.

Think this is right:

Red Skeezix (7): ShadowFacts [1258], Hirka T’Bawa [1260], Septimus [1276], USCDiver [1280], Stanislaus [1282], Weedy [1311], [del]Suburban Plankton [/del][1320-1400], ShadowFacts [1416]
Septimus (5): Red Skeezix [1295], Askthepizzaguy [1429], Stanislaus [1438], Askthepizzaguy [1444], Normal Phase [1447]
Askthepizzaguy (3): Septimus [1276], USCDiver [1280], Suburban Plankton [1393]
ShadowFacts (3): [del]Askthepizzaguy[/del] [1265-1429], Normal Phase [1291], Red Skeezix [1295], gnarlycharlie [1404],
Mental Guy (1): Normal Phase [1447]
Lightfoot (1): choie [1406]
USCDiver (0): [del]Askthepizzaguy[/del] [1289-1412], [del]Normal Phase[/del] [1292-1447]
Suburban Plankton (0): [del]Askthepizzaguy[/del] [1412-1444]

Normal,

I do like the case on Mental Guy. When I voted for him, he suggested that I was guilty of confirmation bias in making my case. That to be fair is always a risk, so it’s good to see someone else finding him suspicious.

You are correct in all of your suppositions here.

Skimming is indeed often cited as a Scum tell on this board. And you are correct in pointing out that it isn’t.

No, I haven’t been skimming, thanks. I don’t think you were attacked by Red on Night Two at all. If you were attacked, I believe you would have gotten a message similar to what I got from last night. Every bulletproof/scotsman role I’ve ever seen has either been informed of the attack/survival. I don’t think it’s credible at all that you would be attacked and not be informed of that.

Additionally, the message Red reported explicitly said you were “protected,” not that his attack bounced off you or something. So if you believe his report, someone was protecting you. (I, of course, do not believe his report).

Night 2:

Red Skeezix claims he tried to kill Septimus
**Septimus **did not die
**Septimus **claims he was ‘Bulletproof’ at the time
**Septimus **claims to not know if he was attacked

Red Skeezix, were you explicitly informed that Septimus was protected, or is that conjecture on your part?

Septimus, did you receive any notification on Night 2 regarding attempted action against you?

I believe I can answer this one. In his claim post, Red posted an alleged PM from the Astral which reads in full: "You return home this morning tired from unsuccessfully pursuing your target all night. At every turn he was able to evade your attempts at his life.

(Your target was protected)"

bolding mine

That’s about as explicit as it gets, IMO.

Although you will note that the description itself didn’t sound like anyone else was involved. (evading at every turn)

Don’t ask me what that means, my brain has gone on holiday for the day.

That does seem to leave little room for doubt.
It seems to me that would be consistent with **Septimus **being Bulletproof. **Red **would not have been ‘blocked’, but his action would have failed, so **Septimus **was ‘protected’ by his native ability.

What seems less likely to me is that **Septimus **would have survuved a Night Kill, thus ‘using up’ his power and effectively turning him into Vanilla Town, and he wouldn’t know anything about it.

I’m with you there. This game has more potential subplots than a Tom Clancy novel.

Personally, I blame **Askthepizzaguy **:smiley:

As an aside, we *need *to get him in a game with peeker…then the rest of us can just sit back and watch as the two of them bring the Internet to its knees…

Heh :smiley: Add in Meeko and they could bring the entire universe to its knees.