No one seemed to have an opinion on this so I’ll just continue Voyager discussions on this thread.
I’ve watched through season 1 and started season 2. I can’t wait until 7 of 9 comes on board. The Seska story arc is ok, but there seem to be so many episodes on holograms and Chakotay’s “spiritualism”.
On a specific note, in the episode “Elogium”… Kes, for some reason, go into an Ocampan reproductive cycle earlier than expected. In the episode, we find out that it usually happens to Ocampans only in their 4th or 5th year, and that Kes is only 2 years old. Considering that the average lifespan of an Ocampan is only 9 at the most. If average lifespan is less than 9 years, I would have thought second year or even earlier would be about right. But then we also find out that Ocampans only reproduce once in their life. If so, I would imagine that the Ocampans would have a number of offspring in their one and only reproductive cycle. But that doesn’t seem to be the case. As Kes and Neelix plan for a child they talk about having a boy or a girl indicating that Kes would only produce one offspring. On top of that, the Ocampans apparently still need a male and a female to mate in order to produce an offspring.
Is anyone else seeing a problem with this? If the Ocampans need a male and a female to produce one offspring it would be impossible for the Ocampans to increase their population. Actually they wouldn’t even be able to sustain a population, it would in fact decrease even if you had a higher ratio of females to males. Even that doesn’t seem to be the case as the ratio appeared to be about 50/50 when Voyager visited the Ocampan home world early in season 1. The only way to sustain a population would be if each reproductive cycle produced an average of 2 to 3 offspring at least. If there should be population growth, the average litter would need to be even higher.
Maybe just a nitpick, but things like this just annoy me a bit.
Can’t wait for Kes to leave and 7 of 9 to join up.
Weren’t the Ocampans either genetically engineered or “bred” by the Caretaker? In that case it all goes out the window, for all we know he was cooking up little Ocampans in a lab or something and keeping the population up that way.
He could do that, but [spoiler]it would be really, really stupid, and he didn’t come off as stupid. It just makes a ton of work for himself that he wouldn’t have had to do.
I think a better fanwank is the idea that male Ocampa could also reproduce. This creates zero population growth, which would be a good idea for the Caretaker to do, so he’d only have to care for a certain maximum number and no more.[/spoiler]
Thanks for doing that! I’ve been told that spoilers aren’t necessary because the series is so old, but there must be new viewers out there.
As for the Ocampans…
Ok, I can imagine that the care takers might have bred Ocampans, but that really seems unlikely. On the other hand I would be more susceptible to the fact that perhaps their DNA changed when they were forced underground. All though very minor.
Anyway, just started season 3 and Chakotey is annoying as usual. I’ve checked out IMDB and now I know 7 of 9 won’t be joining until season 4. I guess I got that wrong. By the way, I should point out out that I really enjoyed the episodes Basics 1 & 2. I guess we wont be seeing Seska anymore. Oh well!
I know, I loved Seska as a villain.
Oh, and now that I think about it, there really is no reason to spoiler: I just did it because you did. It’s not because the show is old, but because anyone reading this thread most likely has already seen everything. The way we’ve done this sort of thing before is that we only spoiler things that you haven’t seen yet. Like this (don’t open it):
Just by coincidence, I’m in the midst of re-watching Voyager, and tomorrow, Netflix is expected to have Scorpion, Pt 2 in my mailbox.
I’d forgotten how discontinuous it all was. Not so much a series, but a hundred or so separate stories with a loose “We’re far from home” thread to give them all a common theme.
Did you watch TOS? Or Next Gen? That’s pretty much their formula. The only thing that made TOS a series was it had the same characters in the same ship. There was very little flow from episode to epsiode, or story arc across the whole series. Mostly post-hoc stuff.
Interestingly enough the story arcs was what made me like DS9 the most, going back to that week-to-week episode of Voyager was a bit of a let down after that.
I usually don’t like time travel episodes very much, but this one wasn’t that bad. I forgot that Sarah Silverman played Rain Robinsson, a pleasant surprise.
It was the episode where the doctor gets a mobile hologram emitter, apparently technology from the future. What I found a bit odd though, is that Braxton suddenly appears at the end and tells them that they have experienced another him previously in a time line he hadn’t experienced. Meaning the time line he was trying to prevent had somehow corrected, then he brings Voyager back to their original timeline in the Delta quadrant. But it seems he has over looked that Voyager still has future technology, specifically the mobile holo-emitter the doctor is in possesion of. Isn’t that a temporal directive violation? Also, in past time line episodes, when a specific timeline is restored, things and people who aren’t supposed to be there tend to disappear as if they never existed, but this isn’t the case for the doctors emitter.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s great that the doctor can now get around, but for some reason I seemed to recall that someone like Torres or Kim invented it. Wonder why I remembered incorrectly. I guess that’s what re-watches are for.
Middle of season 3 now and Q has made several appearances. I never liked the Q episodes and was happy that he only showed up once in DS9.
Twice now for Voyager. I hope there aren’t too many more.
The only other one is in season 7, where Q’s new son (played by John De Lancie’s real-life son) shows up to wreak havoc.
I think the first Voyager Q episode (Death Wish) is one of the best Trek episodes ever, in any series. Too bad Voyager was so inconsistent in terms of quality.
Thanks for the update on season 7. And I have to concur that out of all the Q episodes going back through TNG and DS9, Voyager’s Death Wish was probably the best one.
In the case of Voyager, despite the fact that Voyager’s crew helps the Q-continuum, Q never helps them get closer to home even though they have the power to do so.
But then, I suppose, there would be no further adventures if Q had brought them home as early as season 3.
Yea Voyager has a few of the best and bravest in terms of storytelling episodes in Trek history, but god it has more than its fair share of total stinkers too./
Course Oblivion was one of the bravest hours of television I’ve ever seen.
And for all the bitching about 7of9s skin tight bodysuit she is one of the best characters in all of Trek.
I for one can’t wait for 7 of 9 to show up.
As to this point, it’s the second time I’ve seen someone mention that the actress slept with the producer. Is there any truth in this? Or is this some urban myth?
Either way, I thought she was fantastic as 7 of 9 and as mentioned before, I can’t wait for her appearance and Kes to leave. So it doesn’t matter too much to me as to how she got the part. She was fantastic.
I also have to agree that, despite appearing to have been added to the show purely for reasons of prurient interest, 7 of 9 was actually one of the more interesting characters on Voyager. Admittedly, this isn’t a high bar to clear.