Democratic Super Tuesday discussion thread

Texas is still only 26% reporting but if this holds she move 75 pledged delegates further up there alone. Another 48 up from just Georgia.

Lopsided wins like these in these big states pile up big fast.

This Trump speech is hilarous. Especially with Luca Brasi standing behind him.

Colorado results starting to come in now. That’s a state Sanders can win.

:smiley:

Here is were I stop, the reality is that Trump was ahead most of the time in the polls. The GOP just acted like if that was not real.

But there is something that then follows, as many of those pollsters were right, the polls also showed something else that in light of what took place is valid too: that Trump has been consistently behind Clinton in the national polls that match them, even up to last month.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-general-election-trump-vs-clinton

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/704022914815934464

Maybe. But if you basing this on the share Trump has so far gotten then let me please share this reality check from Nate Silver’s twitter.

Urk. Why are we using these kinds of stats? These aren’t winner-take-all contests, but proportional delegate assignments. Just use poll numbers.

Better yet use the over/under of the targets to “be on track” per 538.

For example winning Texas was a given but the over/under was Clinton 56% and pre-election polling average 60%. It’s on track for 67%.

Pretty much she has blown past the over/unders almost everywhere that has reasonable numbers up so far, excepting OK (underperformed). Even in Vermont her over/under was 8 and it looks like she’s getting 14.

Seems to me that Sanders is doing just fine everywhere but the South. His margins in the South may be too horrible for him to come back from, but pocketing wins in multiple states and being close in some others at least justifies his continuance in the race, especially since we’re moving to more favorable Sanders territory.

The reality is that Trump vs Clinton will be the outsider vs the insider. The results should have implications for 2020.

I don’t know what CNN.com thinks it is accomplishing, but for a couple of hours now they’ve been claiming in their headlines that Trump has won 5 states while Fox and Drudge have been showing him as winning 7. Even CNN’s own state-by-state breakdown shows Trump has won 7 states.

Now it appears to have become clear. CNN’s big print headline currently reads:

Clinton wins 6 states, Trump 5.

I don’t think CNN even makes a pretense at objectivity anymore.

Kudos to him for what looks like wins in CO and MN, as well as in OK and VT. He’s in general not hitting his over/under metrics there but they are wins. The delegate hole is already way too deep to dig out of without depending on him having blow-out victories in both NY and CA, but the narrative value keeps him in until at least MI and likely the 3/15 states.

That’s it though.

Wow:

Being a tweet, there was no room to add “…Visibly gagging, Graham then proceeded to throw up a little in his mouth.”

It does not. This is, as usual from you, an inaccurate statement of the facts. CNN shows both Vermont and Arkansas as Trump leading, but they have called neither state for Trump. Look for the little green checkmarks for the states that CNN has called a winner in. Such a little green checkmark was, as of about five minutes ago, still missing from Vermont and Arkansas.

Well, he’s only 200 behind in actual pledged delegates. I don’t think he should take superdelegates into account this early. Obama sure didn’t.

Massachusetts goes for Clinton. The Boston area put her on top.

They like her there! I remember being surprised in 2008 that Obama got high profile endorsements from both Caroline and Ted Kennedy, but Hillary still won the state.

So what do you suppose is their reason for doing this? To make Trump appear weaker than he is? Like maybe people will wake up tomorrow and not check the results? Do you think CNN is intentionally slowing down reporting Trump victories in because they secretly want Cruz or Rubio to win.

I don’t see no steenkin’ green check marks! I do see little gold stars however. Plus CNN is jukin’ around with its home page. Each state’s results were on the main page, now you have to click a headline to get to them. And your little rant is pretty much a distinction without a difference. In the two states they’re refusing to call, Trump is in the lead position just like he is in the races with the little gold star.

So big deal.

To its credit, CNN is now trumpeting that Trump and Clinton have each won six states. I wonder how long it will take them to catch up to what Fox and Drudge have been saying for at least a couple of hours now and admit he’s won 7.