I wonder if I were to get in trouble if I reported every time he tries to railroad a thread into one of his “The USA sucks, but I’m to much of a chicken shit child to leave or try to make it better!” or reported everytime he mentions wanting US troops to die as threating other posters?
The problem, of course, is that as soon as someone joins whose son is a member of the Iraqi insurgency, the admins face a problem:
Ban discussion of the war altogether?
Ban only discussion of the war that advocates one side or another’s victory through arms?
Ban discussion of the war that advocates the victory of a particular side?
I find it repellent to call for anyone’s death, whether they’re an Iraqi guy pushed over the edge into the insurgency or an American guy signed up to defend the Constitution, or even whether they’re some rich Arab asshole kid fighting to institute some fucked-up theocratic tyranny. Nevertheless, I think that banning such calls would stifle discussion of the war, and I think such a discussion is vital.
There’s a little kid in all of God’s children who needs love. Here’s hoping Der Trihs’ is armed with a rusty chainsaw and an overwhelming urge to physically crawl his way out of Der Trihs.
Actually, you’ve got it all backwards. I advocate not banning any words. I was just asking how hoping someone kills your father is any less hateful than calling your father a faggot. It just seems that banning one would directly imply banning the other.
Your list, though, pretty much misses the whole thing. We can talk about words like “nigger” in an academic sense. We just can’t call each other a n****r. By the same token, one would think that you can talk about the war and the killings academically, but not say “I hope they kill your sister.”
I was responding to your post, but not characterizing your position. Apologies for the confusion.
Different tokens, not same tokens. Someone on the board can certainly say, “I hope that the Iraqi insurgency is destroyed.” They can certainly say, “I hope that any asshole who shoots at a US Marine gets gunned down posthaste.” Those are political opinions, and they are allowed on the board. If those are allowed, then we run into difficulty if we forbid the converse opinion.
They could forbid wishes for the deaths of insurgents, but then the discussion gets really prickly.
Well, that’s the problem with the whole PC business. Someone is deciding what he/she hates to hear, and that’s what hate speech then is. Smith might ban “fundie” and “redneck” while Jones bans “dot-head” and “redskin”.
Edited to add: the above addressed to Left Hand of Dorkness
I think he explained once that he got picked on a lot in school, and so now he hates everyone. He spreads more ignorance on this board than anyone I can think of. i have nothing but contempt and pity for him-- contempt for his vile ideas, and pity for a person who lives his life mired in such hatred.
While I agree with the general flow of this thread, surely “I don’t mind if he died tomorrow” is also pretty bad? Obviously not to the extent of **Der Trihs’ ** posts in both scale and active interest, but still. It just seems a bit off to call someone out on wishing death on others by pointing out you wouldn’t mind if he himself died.
First, point of order: If you use quotes please be accurate with what you place between them. You (inadvertently, is my guess) changed the tenor of what I said. My actual words feel more figure-of-speech than yours, which they were. But to be honest, I really don’t give a shit if he does. But that is not that same as wishing him dead. If I could choose what would happen to Der Shithead death would absolutely not be it. Education would be a nice punishment for him. As would a conscience. Or just the realization of how chilidishly cruel and asine his positions are. To those end, The Der Shit Listen-Up America Tour: Coming to a Town Bar Near You, would be instructive.
I’m sorry for misrepresenting your post; I didn’t see it as that big a change in tone myself, but they’re your words so i’ll go with that.
I did point out, though, that you not caring if he dies isn’t the same as actively wishing death on him. I’m not comparing the two of you and giving your remarks equal weight. I’m just saying that it seems kinda off to say you wouldn’t mind if he died when you’re calling him out for wishing death. Different perspectives, I guess.
The quote was, in fact, though a truncated quote of your post #13, completely accurate. No actual words were changed. Please do not make me look to see if I have to warn someone for changing the words in a quote when it’s not necessary.
I’d join in with this pitting of DT, but honestly, it seems to be about as relevant as complaining that vomit stinks. This poster is simply one of the flies in the ointment of this great place I know on the internet, known as the SDMB.