I wasn’t talking about what’s legal, and I am not even taking a stand on whether or not it’s “noble” or “righteous.” I was talking about what happens sometimes when one guy directly personally insults another guy, or someone in his family. My opinion is that Der Trihs wouldn’t take that risk in real life. Therefore, you are right, the confrontation would not be likely to happen in real life, because I sincerely doubt that Oakminster is a bully, or would do anything to start a fight that wasn’t provoked.
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This is the only surprising thing I’ve seen so far in this thread. I’d always assumed Der Trihs to be a college student, or at least of that age. His posts are certainly as strident, dogmatic, and shallow as those of the Budding Youth Who’s Figured It All Out.
Pity that he appears to belong to the unfortunate few who fail to grow past that phase.
Roger that.
So would you mind translating for those of us who don’t speak German?
I think it’s Dutch and no I haven’t a clue
Afrikaans, I think.
I believe it translates to something like - “The rules do not always make sense, but they are still the rules, and I don’t want you to get banned.”
Or perhaps I have no idea what I am talking about.
Regards,
Shodan
I wish this because I would give him the berating of a lifetime. I’m a middle aged woman and I’ve never gotten into a physical fight out of anger. However, I do like the idea of someone like, say, Oakminster, getting his hands on Der Trish. If this makes me a slavering animal, so be it. Schadenfreude runs strong in my people.
I do believe I would be arrested and charged for attacking a person. Good thing I’m not going to do that. Pretty sure I can’t be arrested for berating someone, though.
As for not caring if he dies, why should I? Lots of people die and it doesn’t faze me, and most of them never wished painful death on my nearest and dearest.
To get away from thoughts of death, does anybody else here predict that a few years down the line Dear Trish is going to be one of those fake veterans that does it for the attention? I definitely get that feeling about him. One time he talked about how he was “on the front lines” of the war against the war, or something.
Does anyone still actually pay attention to this guy? I stopped reading his posts back when he said he would personally kill any and every US Soldier if he had the ability.
When someone says the fight is useless, futile, not in the interest of the American people, a waste of blood, our youth, and our money… a pointless endeavour started by the vengeful rage of a madman… a political stunt, a murderous operation intended to seize petrolium assets… Those things I can listen to. I will hear out that viewpoint which is opposite of mine. I will listen with an open mind and try hard to test my personal beliefs and find why I still believe it’s worth fighting and is a cause worth sacrificing my own life for.
Regardless of what lies or spin got us there, we are there. The initial intentions of the President are irrelevant to me at this point. I believe there is a chance to give the children and future children of Iraq a safe, prosperous country. One of the people, for the people. I believe there is that chance. I will fight to give them that chance, and I am willing to die to give them that oppurtunity. I don’t, however, believe I am making present day Americans any safer by being over there. Arguably, a success in Iraq might make the future of America somewhat safer or more peaceful, but that is not my motivation. The blood I spill in Iraq will be for Iraq, and the for future generations born on that soil–not for Americans or American interest. I dont personally believe that every action the US Military engages in must somehow directly benefit our people or our country. I believe that doing things for the sake of good and for the sake of what’s right, is reason enough.
But when someone just outright says he would like to kill every American Soldier just on principle, and outright accuses every soldier as being a rapist of all things… such a person is too damn stupid and much too dogmatic for me to even bother replying to. Rapists? Every soldier? He’s a fucking idiot, plane and simple. The shit which spews from his keyboard effects me in much the same way as a publicly burned American Flag. It does not anger me. It gives me an overwelming sense of pride. I don’t want to see him banned or silenced. I love the fact that this country allows even the most inane and idiotic contemptuous speech. Preech on, trihs! You’re an idiot and I’m both proud and honored to let you post as much nonsensical hate and contempt for this nation as you wish. Keep typing, keep screaming. I dont have to give your posts a second thought, and if I dont like what you say (and I dont), it’s simply too easy for me to skip it and move on to the next post.
What? What point are you trying to make? I’m perfectly aware of what he wrote. I quoted them. Twice. Based on them I asked another question. That’s kinda how it works. YOumight want to peruse a few hundred threads and see if you can notice the pattern.
I’m glad you contributed this. Each paragraph has it’s own special brand of Ignorance flavored with Kumbayaism. Now I know for certain you are just another leftist idiot who understands nothing about war and doesn’t have the backbone to do what is necessary. Everything we have done over there has been done in an effort to reduce and prevent more killing. Sorry to have to break this to you and other Shehanites, but people die in wars. Or police actions. Or whatever else you would like to call it. I just thank God there weren’t more of your ilk around during WWII.
I refer you to the painfully obvious advice I supplied to What Exit?: I’m perfectly aware of the words you wrote. I quoted them. Twice. Based on them I asked another question. That’s kinda how it works. You might want to peruse a few hundred threads and see if you can notice the pattern.
Auf Wiedersehen.
This is my surprised question too. I mean, if the guy were up on a soapbox in the public square screaming his opinions, I’d listen for a minute, think “Huh. Whack-job,” and then I’d move on.
The things he says are so blatantly outrageous that it’s not just that I disagree with them, it’s that they indicate a moral system that is completely inconsistent with my own. So there’s no need for attempted communication, because it’s not as if we’re on the same page, or even in the same book. Heck, we’re not even in the same library in the same town. He’s over there, in Crazyville, and I’m over here, where life’s not perfect and lots of people hold lots of opinions about the conflicts in Iraq or elsewhere – but no one’s wishing death on anybody.
So there’s no common ground at all. The value of his contributions (or lack thereof) are so blazingly obvious I’m surprised anyone reacts with anything other than a yawn.
Okay, that is fair, I mistakingly thought you were accusing the poster of a sentiment he did not indicate. I am sorry.
Bear_Nenno, thank you for your post, you said much better, what I was trying to say.
Jim
No problem. Thank you for handling this the sane, reasonable manner you did. It is a lesson for us all.
Heh. And now I know that either Afrikaans is not as close to Dutch as I thought, or else Babelfish’s Dutch really sucks.
Eh. Not really the same, and the guy is a Guest poster.
Look, like it or not, the US is in Iraq with the consent of the legitimate government of that country, and acts in agreement with the laws of that country. It’s not substantially different from UN peacekeepers in other parts of the world. I’m really surprised you can’t see a difference between actions taken by a legitimate government to keep order and actions taken by groups intent on overthrowing a legitimate government by violence, purposing killing as many civilians as it can in the process.
If I may, this is, in a nutshell, the reason why choosing to joing the military at this point, and being “for the war”, so to speak, can still be a perfectly moral choice, no matter how much one may despise Bush and his administration. I’ve never gotten around to typing it out. It’s certainly a much more moral and noble choice than the myriads of people who not advocate a speedy withdraw without regard for the consequences for the Iraqi people. Many of the same myriads, by simple elimination, would be the same dumbkopfs who had previously been supportive of the invasion based on an uncritical assessment of the “WMD” baloney that was presented to them by Bush, and are now backpeddling in the ultimate display of American arrogance, irresponsibility and selfishness.
“Get the troops home”? They could have just STAYED home and not joined the damn army. How about “Get the job done”? I understand that many of you may hold the position that the war is now unwinnable, Bush’s incompetence isn’t helping any. The war in 1941 looked unwinnable too, would you rather keep trying, or give up and accept the ghastly consequences?
Der Trihs has said he has Asperger’s. Most of his posts should be read in that light. When he advocates killing U.S. servicemen, he is incapable of understanding how that might read to someone that has family there. That part of his brain just doesn’t function.
Er, OK, so actually you’d like someone to beat him up by proxy. I can’t say that sounds all that much better.
Anyway, my point is, how precisely does Oakminster’s presumed ability to best Der Trihs in a fistfight make his view the correct one? Either DT is right or he is wrong. Or, and I know how popular this opinion is going to be, he is wrong about many things but right about some others. Look, I’ve already agreed he’s a jerk, and, near as I can tell, most of the persons posting to this thread agree as well. The blustering some of y’all are indulging in contributes nothing of much substance except to once again demonstrate how enjoyable a lot of people find it to identify someone as a fit subject for personal punishment.
You have the floor here, and you could just as easily berate him here if you like. You don’t want to engage him, you just want to insult him back in as painful a way as possible. Well, go ahead and cut loose; it would be just as effective to do so here as anywhere else.