How about the circumstance where it is at best an oversimplification to assert that SIRE never correlates to a shared genetic history?
Regards,
Shodan
PS - Stop making scientific statements about race, you racist racist, you.
Let’s see a cite that demonstrates this.
Regards,
Shodan
I see the Shodanning is starting…
No. Not playing your stupid game - anyone with any interest can look up the numerous scientific racist threads, peppered all over GD, like so much diarrhoeic spew.
Hush, sweetie. Big people are talking.
Maybe, but they aren’t making any sense.
Regards,
Shodan
PS - you racist.
I’ve read them. But you claimed you were using the same definitions of race as they do. I am not prepared to believe that until you show it.
Of course, if you define actually proving what you say as a “stupid game”, well, then racistracistracist.
Regards,
Shodan
Because I’m not a racist, I support the right of Shodan, and other Mullet-Americans to derp around like this.
So you’ll happily defend racists’ posting rights without even the least awareness of what’s in their idol Rushton’s books? That’s nice.
Just to keep others informed, Rushton was on the “Only 3 races: Black, White,Yellow” end of the spectrum. In 1995. Yes, that’s “19” in front there, not “18”.
What does that have to do with what I said? What does how you define “black” have to do with determining who is most at risk of sickle cell in southern Africa?
Are you just not bothering to read anyone else’s posts, or are you doing what you complain about “scientific racists” doing, and dropping your irrelevant hobby-horse bullshit in to derail a conversation?
Look, “black” is a cultural descriptor. In some circumstances, it correlates well enough with genetic populations well enough to be a useful shorthand. Discussing what those circumstances are isn’t racist - even if I disagree with you about what they are.
I am asking you to prove what you said, to which you responded that it was a stupid game to do so.
Now prove that this is the definition used on the SDMB, which is what you claimed.
Regards,
Shodan
It’s certainly not the definition anyone’s been using in this thread…
Correct. The definition in this thread is pretty much the one that it usually is.
Regards,
Shodan
I take no responsibility for your lack of basic comprehension.
It would also be racist to draw the inference that there is something in the intrinsic nature of black people that makes them more likely to commit crimes. It is not racist to say that sociological conditions – segregation, discrimination, poverty, racism itself – contribute to criminality and that more American blacks live in these conditions than white people do.
It’s deadly tricky, though. A schoolteacher in Los Angeles observed that when a child is disruptive in a classroom, it is far more likely that the child is black than any other ethnic group. Is this a racist thing to say…if it happens to be true? Should it be said? If it is a real problem, should it be diagnosed before an attempt at treatment is made? One side says it’s racist to make the observation, and the other side says it’s “political correctness gone amok” not to make the observation.
(I vote against making the observation because it tends to be used as a political lever by people who support changes in the school systems that would not actually improve conditions!)
I would say that if the observation is not made, nothing can be done to solve the issue. That’s obviously simplistic, and there are obviously times when it should not be made at that point, but pretending that these issues don’t exist won’t make them go away, and accusing those who observe them of racism won’t help anything. If anything it will make it worse.
You are saying outright that scientifically established observations should be hidden because they might be misused.
How very sad.
Plus you wind up looking more than a little silly as you say repeatedly “Elephant? What elephant?”
Regards,
Shodan
Any chance at all of moving the topic of Der Trihs’ view on what is and is not racism to another thread?
“The kids causing trouble in classrooms tend to be black” is not a “scientifically established observation.”
And, thank you for proving my point by misusing my observation.