Dex: Clarify, please

In this thread you said:

Later in the same thread, Twickster said:

Obviously, both statements cannot be true. I’d like an explanation.

At least one mod disagreed.

Glad I could help.

Looks to me like twickster’s post explained that Dex misspoke. What more do you want that required yet another thread? Not getting enough attention?

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Of the staff members that were consulted (or responded), all were unanimous. Some of the rest have since registered their disagreement.

A true unanimous decision is unlikely considering there are almost 20 staff members and usually a few that are not very active.

That seems to me to be a curious thing to be innocently mistaken about, and Dex has yet to retract his statement. I expect accurate information from the staff when they speak in an official capacity. Either he was careless, which means he should apologize for his error, or he thinks it was a unanimous decision…which makes me wonder why another mod disagrees.

This is what I get when I don’t look at who the OP is.

This isn’t a fucking court of law. Get the fuck over it.

These pieces of the sky, they make satisfying crunch noises when you step on 'em.

Sure those aren’t snails?

Or little children. I don’t always watch where I’m walking.

People have explained the situation well here – not everyone chimes in on everything all the time, as has been noted, we do have a lot of staffers and their level of participation varies as availability and real life situations affect staffing.

I would say that we have consensus on most things. Sometime we agree to disagree. We speak in consensus publicly; it would be counterproductive otherwise.

Group decision making rarely employs “always” or “never,” though we mostly are in agreement without too much discussion. In the large we are of like mind, with occasional variances. Of course we are moderating a community that can have two people in a discussion and three opinions all at the same time, so it gets interesting. :slight_smile:

Based on my extensive legal training (consisting of being a juror twice) I’d say there’s a lot less nitpicking in actual courts of law.

“University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small.” – Henry Kissinger

The problem here is that Dex made a representation of material fact–that this was a unanimous decision by the mods. There is now reason to believe that it was not a unanimous decision.

So what is it? Unanimous, which would mean that Twickster is somehow mistaken, or not unanimous, which means Dex needs to explain why he said otherwise. It seems to me that if there was actual discussion among the mods, and Dex participated in that discussion, he should know full well whether the decision was unanimous or not. And he should not be careless in relating that information to those that question the decision.

That truly explains this.

Dude, let it go! Seriously. Dex misspoke. Twix corrected his statement. Dex is probably extremely busy, which is probably w thhy he hasn’t come back to the thread. It was a mistake, and I’m sure he’ll say as such if/when he shows up.

What do you expect to accomplish with this cross-examination?

I have been a message board moderator or admin on several different message boards of and on since the late 90’s. I can kind of see how Dex and twix can be correct depending on interpretation.

For example, suppose a group is discussing whether or not to ban someone. The opinions range from an outright ban to a one month suspension to a one week suspension. Eventually they come to a unanimous consensus to do a one month suspension. Sure, the consensus was unanimous but, on the other hand, not everyone got what they wanted either.

Was that a unanimous decision?

“All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great moderators and administrators are almost always bad moderators and administrators, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it.” – Sir John Dalberg-Acton, and the lone cashew

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We could fight them with conventional weapons.

That could take years…cost millions of lives.

In this case…I think we have to go all out.

I think this situation absolutely requires…a really futile and stupid gesture… be done on somebody’s part.

We’re just the guys to do it.
Let’s do it.

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