Dexter Season 4 open spoilers for aired episodes [changed title]

Christine killed herself last week

Maybe when Rita called Dexter he didn’t have any bars. Or maybe he was such in a zone he didn’t hear it. Or maybe the music he used for Trinity overwhelmed it. I don’t find that part too unbelievable.

I wonder if in the next season premiere if we’ll be picking up 15 minutes later, 15 days, 15 weeks or whatever. If it’s immediate, I think we’re going to see a lot of suspicion on Dexter, a lot of wondering why Trinity targeted him, but then disappeared, how did Trinity manage to frame the trucker, why Kyle was always around Arthur.

But if we fast forward a bit (as they tend to with each season), I think these things will just be resolved off camera or in flashbacks or not at all.

I don’t think Harrison sat there the entire time, and even though there wasn’t evidence of it, maybe he had crawled away and then came back to the room. We don’t know how long they were there. Maybe he had been drugged and just woke from a nap.

Dexter has no alibi for the time. He has motive (she kissed the neighbor). He knew how Trinity operated to copycat him. He just had two violent eruptions. He could be in a lot of trouble.

I don’t think it was “all a dream” or Dexter did it. I think it was real and Trinity did it and did it alone.

And that he didn’t even HINT at it to Dexter while he was strapped down on the table? Makes him even crazier than I thought he was.

I didn’t see this coming at all. When her phone rang from the kitchen, I thought maybe she had fallen or Trinity had kidnapped her… I was horrified by what the truth was.

It was so chilling to have the Dexter/Harry scenes interspersed with the Dexter/Harrison ones. And the idea of any child witnessing that is too painful to even think about.

It was good drama, but it was disturbing to me and as a fan of the show, I wonder what that means for next season.

I don’t think I’ve been so personally disturbed by a tv death since Adriana on the Sopranos.

Actually, as I was watching it, I kept thinking “okay, this is another dream sequence” and I thought it had the soft-focus look of Dex’s various waking dreams / chats with Harry. I kept waiting for the “wake-up” moment and when it didn’t come, I was left wondering what the fuck…?

Dude, first you coin the phrase “serial killerism” and then you lay this on us, my ribs ache! :slight_smile:

I’ve forgotten most of S1, but this was discussed upthread – Dexter has DNA proof that Harry isn’t his biological father. He’s a match with a guy who died in S1, not Harry.

I don’t think Deb’s bond with Dexter could get much stronger. He’s been her rock, through everything she’s been through.

Does anyone remember if it was explained why Deb was wanting to find Harry’s CI’s? What was she looking for?

And how long has Harry been dead? I don’t remember a single thing about how/when he died. God, it sucks to be old and forgetful.

Harry committed suicide by overdose after seeing Dexter in action. Officially, though, he had a heart attack.

Dexter found out that Harry was banging his mom, Laura Moser in Season 1. In Season 2, Deb is pestering Dexter about getting drinks and honoring Harry’s death, she notes that Dex has been weird about any mention of Harry. After Deb harasses him awhile, Dex reveals that Harry cheated on his wife. Dexter didn’t really intend to share with Deb but the revelation got him off the hook.

Deb, now knowing that Daddy wasn’t perfect, uses her contact at the records place to pull Harry’s CI files. She needs confirmation that he was a cheater.

He wasn’t crazy, he was right. He was talking about how Dexter was safe when he followed the code, but the situations that were created by having a family, and his protective urge of his family were making him sloppy. He wouldn’t have been in the situation of going nuts in front of the cops and getting arrested if he wasn’t so concerned about the safety of his family.

He did at some point say something like “it’s too late, the deed is already done” but it was part of the rantings of a crazy guy and he just sort of dismissed it after hesistating for a moment.

The message implied that she didn’t find out she didn’t have her ID until relatively late in the game and missed her flight because of it, but that she’d scheduled a trip on the next flight.

I disagree - this ending fits in perfectly with the season thematically. The whole deal was about how he was going to balance who he was and who he wanted to be - how he was going to manage his continued life as a serial killer with the responsibilities to his family. A big part of the appeal of getting to know Arthur is that he thought he had solved the problem - that he had gone on being a killer and yet had a good family life. As the season went on, it became more clear that he didn’t, and his family were victims.

Between this and Dexter’s constant code violations because of the pressure caused by his family, he knew on some level that this wasn’t going to work, and yet he continued. After a while he had to - he was so deep into the situation that there was no way out. He knew he might bring the consequences home and he took the risk by continuing to feed his dark passenger. It’s perfectly consistent that he (and his family) should have to pay a price for this - that’s what this whole season was about.

And now Dexter has learned that he can’t have both - a normal life, and his dark passenger. Where do we go from here? He still has the responsibilities of a son, but now knows he cannot balance the needs of his passenger and his family.

It also gives us meaningful change to the character and new stories for next year - both to see what a Dexter who knows he can’t have a normal life after desperately wanting it will do, and because he’s going to be under more scrutiny than he’s ever been - given that Trinity was seen with him at the police station, he has to explain why his wife would be one of his victims, etc.

As for explaining the scene at the police station - Dexter was overheard saying to Trinity “you shouldnt be here” - Since no one knew it was Trinity at that point, its not a stretch to say that his confrontation of Trinity led to Rita’s being chosen - timing wise, it was well within the pattern of Trinity Kills, so it works that Dexter/Rita was the unfortunate choice of Trinity.

What will confuse Dexter at the beginning is wether or not he has to complete Trinity’s kills for him - so that no one, especially the FBI, starts to wonder about Trinity’s disappearance mid-cycle.

I’m still trying to figure out how he got breudy from the cab to inside the trailer without anyone seeing it.

The oil cap thing pretty much has to be considered just a Hollywood-ism. Remember, they didn’t say drain plug, then said oil cap. I can’t see that causing any short term problems with an older car like that.

Rita’s death actually left me a little stunned. It’s been a while since a show has done that, so kudos to them.

there goes my dream series finale of Deb carrying Harrison off in a pool of blood ala dexter and harry. (mentioned somewhere in this huge thread)

I thought the ending was good, my stomach sunk and saddened to see Rita dead but now Dexter can be his old serial killer self with a pissed off outlook to the world. He might be even more brutal as he lashes out or comes to terms with the death of his beloved wife.

I think everyone needs to stop using the books to parallel the TV series. Just plain stop it. I haven’t read the books but to my knowledge of reading the differences between them, there is NOTHING after most of the first book that is similar to the TV series. They may take ideas and small scenes but I doubt they’re gonna go mystical with Dexter.

read that and stop saying “are they following the book?” because they ain’t.

Pretty sure Dexter gonna be knee deep with Feds next season as they took over the Trinity case from Miami Metro Homicide. I think Trinity will be assumed to be the killer of Rita, but Dexter will be under scrutiny too. The feds will be going through Dexter’s house with attention to the most minor details and might find something odd about him. This finale was truly a game changer as the buzz predicted. They can pretty much do a reboot of solo dexter not answering to a significant other.

Something that seemed odd to me was how come the SWAT team that came into Trinity’s home not ask the family who else was in the house, like how come they didn’t “catch” dexter being in the house. And how come they didnt’ recognize the bright pinkish shirt Dexter was wearing when he was outside looking at the sad walk of the family to the cop car. Dexter was the only one not wearing a Black flak jacket that said police on it. He was the only other person in street clothes along with Trinity’s family. How can no single member of the family not see that? were they that distraught about the whole accusation of their father/husband was the Trinity killer?

It could still happen, if Deb kills Dexter in the series finale.

Thanks, Chopper9760 and Electronic Chaos, for clearing that up, about Harry.

I think Dex is free and clear of being at the raid on Arthr’s house too soon, so long as he makes sure never to cross paths with the family while they are still being questioned by the cops.

As far as an alibi for Rita’s murder… it’s still possible. If they can narrow down her time of death, and it turns out he stopped for a meal on the way home or filled his gas tank or something like that, it would be enough. All he has to show is that he wasn’t in range of Rita when she died, and it doesn’t matter so much what he was doing in that other place, though obviously “killing Arthur” won’t cut it.

Right, I suppose that’s why we didn’t see her :smack:

I could buy this if there was some sort of escalation in the external threats his family might face. Thru the first eleven episodes, the biggest threat to maintaining Dexter’s family was that it was getting more and more difficult for Dex to hide his true self from Rita; there was never any serious hint that Rita and the family were in mortal danger from TK until episode 12.

The fatal flaw may have been the long delay this season before Arthur figured out who Dexter really was. This revealation was inevitable; Trinity wouldn’t be a worthy adversary if at some point he didn’t get on a more-or-less equal footing with Dexter (e.g. if he woke up wrapped in plastic and still thought Dexter was Kyle). I might have accepted the ending if there was some hint that Trinity had started stalking Rita and the family before the final episode–suppose, for example, Dexter noticed a pamphlet for the Four Walls tucked in Cody’s schoolbooks (“some nice man was handing them out at school”). We got that kind of escalation in season 2 with Lila, and we saw something like it earlier this season with the female cop. Instead the ending was so rushed that IMO the final scene was included for its shock value only.

I think killing Rita was a great idea, but I’m really disappointed by how it was done. Essentially, it was by magic. We never had any clue that Arthur had located Dexter’s house, and not only that but they had to throw in some ‘return from the airport’ schtick to put Rita at home at the right time.

I’m in agreement with some other folks here that they threw out a decent narrative of events in order to get shock value. I think they could have had both. It’s almmost like killing her was a last minute idea and they had another five minutes to re-write the script to make it happen.

Arthur’s family is a huge liability for Dexter. They know him as Kyle Butler, and if they ever mention that name to the police, they’ll think it was the guy that Arthur killed and try to verify that, and the family will say no, Kyle Butler was at our house when you stormed in, and if Dexter is already under scrutiny he couldn’t keep hiding from the family… He’s way too mixed up in the whole thing. Shoulda just knifed him as soon as he figured out he was Trinity and he still thought he shot Deb and Lundy…

Maybe he’ll have to have a clandestine meeting with them to inform them about the whole story and get them to keep quiet about him in exchange for confirmation that Arthur really is dead and won’t show up at their door one day.

With all the serial killers on the show, Trinity isn’t just the most prolific of them, he’s the most prolific serial killer of all time. Were this reality, the FBI would be all over this and there’d be a huge media blitz. Every single angle would be scrutinized to death. If I were Dexter I’d probably flee the country and change my identity. Imagine if you were Dahlmer or Bundy’s friend and also happened to be a murderer. Think that’d stay hidden long?

Gah! I keep hearing more and more about the finale (no details; just adjectives), but since I don’t get Showtime, I wait every year for the season to come out on DVD before I do a mini-marathon of catching up.

But I want to know now!!! GAAAAHHHHH!!!

(haven’t looked at a single post in this thread, but had to share…)

Then I guess that means I can call you an ugly loser with stupid pants and wont have to worry about a retort for half a year.

I think if the FBI zeros in on Dexter as a suspect in Rita’s murder then it likely means season 5 is the last season. I don’t see Dexter getting arrested as that would be a bummer ending , they will figure out some other way to wrap up the series.