Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit

Fixed it.

Key takeaway:

In total it is likely that 62,413 people have died of starvation and its compilations in Gaza from October 7, 2023 to September 30, 2024. Most of these will have been young children.

That’s speaking of the probabiliies, the actual total could be different - but only by a few percent.

Your link doesn’t say that, you lying piece of shit. It takes the “famine level” some retards declared, multiples the expected number of deaths at that fanine level by the numbers of days that passed, and claims this many people died.

The fact that that many people did not die of starvation is how we know the famine level classification was bullshit.

If people actually died of starvation en masse, you should be able to show that this happened. Instead, you have a table from some retards who figured out how to multiply.

But that is not “thousands”.
That is tens of thousands.

Because you declared it so? You need to provide actual evidence for this, you dishonest piece of shit.

You do know that people in Gaza have cell phones, right? And internet? if tens of thousands of people have starved to death, how come the only evidence of this is someone declaring “they’re in a famine level X, Y people die per day at that level, Z days have passed, so Y*Z people are dead of starvation”? How come there is zero actual evidence of starvation, beyond the 30-40 cases of people in hospitals with specialized dietary requirements at the start of the war?

It’s what some might call “suspicious”.

Including some that explode!

That was Lebanon, and those were pagers. Unless you mean the standard Samsung Galaxy exploding battery issue we all had a few years back.

Yes, it does.

Tell us all again how liberal you are, it’s hard to see past the spittle.

Like I said, if it’s off by a few percent, that’s hardly going to exonerate Israel.

…is not a “fact”, genocide-lover.

..by accessing Gaza? How the hell can anyone do that, nowadays?

Tens of thousands are thousands. Many, many thousands.

Because the people who study this kind of thing say so.

The deaths and calorie levels we’ve already seen are the evidence. This is just extrapolation from the facts on the ground.

Coming from someone who can’t stop licking IOF butthole long enough to stop defending them when they gun down medics and literally cover it up, I take that as high praise.

Ha ha ha.

I knew you were full of shit when you said you’d retract your claim if thousands of people didn’t starve. But I didn’t realize your evidence was literally going to be “trust me bro, the estimates we made last year were spot on, just project them out and you know how many people died to within a few percent”.

Oh, I forgot, we are supposed to trust the IOF’s death toll instead.

You know, the famously honest and scrupulous IOF.

Hey, remind me, why are you sitting in Cali cheerleading the genocide, and not taking your turn in the IOF to defend the Fatherland??

No, you’re supposed to provide any evidence whatsoever besides someone pulling a famine level out of their ass and someone else multiplying numbers on a chart.

I’m cheering genocide because I want a two state solution, and you are totally justified in cheering “kill the Boers” because even though you’re saying “kill the ethnic group” what you mean is super nuanced, you promise.

You couldn’t be any more obvious about your “white = evil genocider, brown = based and awesome” racism.

You’re just covering yourself in glory here.

the well-researched and comprehensive statistics work of experts in the field?

I’ll take that over the non-evidence of the IOF any day.

Where one of the states is a cemetery, yeah, we know.

Something I’ve never done. And hence certainly not something you can cite me doing here.

I have sung Dubul’ ibhunu once upon a time. But as I know you know, that’s not the same thing at all.

Strange, somehow accusations of racism from the cowardly cheerleader-in-chief of a literal Apartheid state doesn’t seem to sting at all.

I’m a white South African; I am sensitive to this type of language even though I am not a “boer”*

@MrDibble has never, as far as I am aware, called for “killing the boers”

* For non Dutch/Afrikaans speakers: “boer” means “farmer”, in direct translation, but quite a bit more nuanced, it is used both as a pejorative for white people, and a name Afrikaans people take pride in. Slightly different, but see also use of “nigger” as used in US culture across different racial groups.

In the context of the fight against Apartheid, “boer” was also used as a catchall term for the armed forces/police of the Apartheid government, right?

He sure spent a lot of time defending the phrase for someone who doesn’t use it himself, but fair enough, my mistake.

So 0 hard evidence for allegedly tens of thousands dead. Good to know the level of intellectual honesty we are dealing with here.

That sounds like a one state solution. Not what I’m looking for.

All white people, but especially the armed forces and police.

Aside: I once had a parking dispute with a young lady - I had an assigned parking place in a lot that my company had paid for, and she had parked in the clearly marked place… and she ended the conversation with, “you racist fucking boer!”…which made me laugh at her lack of self awareness.

And then she had forgotten to pay her parking ticket, so schandenfreude overflowed.

And yet, literally two posts up;

Perhaps you are missing some cultural significance here.

No, you want two states only if one of them is a beach resort built on a mass grave. Just like Nahsholim.

Right. As I explained in that “woke” thread Babale no doubt already read.

Well, if any poster wouldn’t understand our local equivalent of “Fuck Tha Police”, it’s well-known police bootlicker Smapti.