Uh-huh. That’s why the graphic detail and the repeats. Mmm-mmm, sure…
Naah, you’re just chauvinist about which genocidal scum you want to get off.
You’re the lifelong whore who hasn’t yet realized getting off your back is also an option, basically. So you project, project, project.
If I got off on genocide, Israel would be the last place I look to, since if they were trying to commit a genocide, they’re clearly fucking terrible at it.
And I assume in your analogy supporting nation states is being a whore, and being an anarcho-communist or whatever the fuck you are is “getting off your back”?
Now who’s lying? BB has done so multiple times.
Like the IOF doesn’t do the exact same thing…
The IDF has army bases in schools, hospitals, and apartment buildings? You got a cite for that claim?
Naah, mate, they’re just edging their genocide. That’s so very obviously their, and your, kink.
What the fuck are you talking about? Was that the weakest-ass attempt at an ad hom turnaround I’ve seen in a while, or what? What the fuck do nation-states or my personal politics (which you get laughably wrong) have to do with anything, never mind specifically your whoring for the IOF? Bro, do you even analogy, bro?
Do armed IOF cadres not march around the civilian streets? What does it matter where their bases are, when they use the entire population as their meat shields?
I posted pictures right here already.
It wasn’t an ad hominim, I don’t remember your exact political leanings and I assumed that your point about not being a whore to anyone was about any nation state. If you meant something else, cool, I guess I misunderstood.
You mean when they’re on their way home from a base? They don’t march around, typically, cause it’s not like a whole unit is going to the same place, but they do walk, ride public transport, or drive home; as do soldiers in any other country.
So, no cite for operations out of civilian areas - got it.
Clearly.
I meant it’s possible to not support either genocidal group, and just support the civilians being killed on both sides.
And no, if killing lots of civilians is how you try to get the one side, you’re not supporting the civilians on both sides. At all.
…and just moving around in society, in civilian clothes.
No, they blend in.
It’s OK If An Israeli Does It, eh?
I can assure you South African soldiers don’t go home out of uniform yet still armed with their service weapons. I’m willing to bet US and similar soldiers don’t, either.
If walking around armed, as I have actually cited, isn’t operating, what is it?
When they go home and wear civilian clothes, they aren’t operating against Hamas or anyone else. Do you think all Israelis from 18 to 41 should be considered combatants because they could be called up?
They blend in in their uniform, because they walk like a normal person instead of marching?
OK, bud.
It’s walking? They’re heading home, where they will lock up their service weapon, throw their uniform in the laundry, and then spend the weekend or week, however long their break is, doing the same shit that teenagers everywhere do.
It varies by country. I don’t know anything about the South African army’s policy, but US bases do have a central armory. In other countries they do other things; for example in Switzerland not only do soldiers take home their weapons on breaks, they keep them forever after the service, and are expected to maintain the weapons and have them available if called up from the reserves.
He must be talking about those dudes seen walking around central Tel Aviv, dressed like they are on their way to the beach, toting a grenade launcher or other clearly military weapon. No uniform whatsoever. Definitely not on their way to or from a base. Alessan said they were off-duty soldiers.
Swiss reservists don’t get ammo.
Yep, those. Posted pics before.
Gotcha. So in MrDibble’s world, some Israeli soldiers breaking policy is comparable to and an excuse for Hamas putting their HQ under a hospital and firing rockets from schoolyards.
What a braindead comparison.
Just once, could you try to respond to what people are actually saying, instead of the voices in your head that are doing one hell of a fucked-up job translating those words for you?
You are the only one making it so, yeah-braindead.
…why do you think I don’t know what your objection is? What I don’t find credible is this:
Both sets of numbers are verifiable. The people with the raw data are able to check the different methodologies to see if there has been deliberate inflation.
From today:
Its very clear what you are trying to do here. You aren’t some objective arbiter of truth. What happened here was nothing more than a attempt to improve data quality, and you are using it to undermine the cviilian death toll.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(24)01169-3/fulltext#%20
Every real expert agrees that the numbers are going to be a significant undercount. It will be years before we get a clear picture of the scale of deaths. All we have is a snapshot.
You most certainly are not an actual expert.
Says his qualifications.
The actual scale of the failures here are unbelievable. The fact that you can look at what happened here and conclude that “yeah, this will definitely happen again” shows how little faith you have in the Israeli government, the IDF, and the people who vow to protect it.
The plan isn’t to occupy. Its to annex.
You can’t even articulate what “removing Hamas” actually means. Right now Isreal are targeting Hamas Police, which, because Hamas are both a terrorist organization and the governing body, means they are just targeting the police.
And I think they are doing that because Lavender has exhausted its list of “terrorist” suspects and has moved onto something else. And what it means is a further breakdown of order into chaos. The police were instrumental in making sure aid deliveries were distributed properly. But a series of targeted assassinations over the last few months have made this increasingly difficult.
“Hamas has to be removed” isn’t something even remotely achievable. Because the paradigm is simply that “everybody is Hamas.” And when that’s your starting point: there is no end.
I think it takes a level of sickness to post the sort of things you’ve been posting lately, to be honest.
I think the US and the UK and France and most of the rest of the Western world giving the okay to Israel to conduct the war in any way it likes is plenty of pressure. You are acting like the whole world is against Israel when most of the political parties in power are backing Israel.
The evidence doesn’t support your thesis. Not at the scale of destruction we have seen. I’ll again point to Lavender.
Women, children, families, aren’t being killed here because “Hamas are using human shields.” They are being killed because the IDF are waiting for suspected Hamas operatives to get home before bombing it…because it was easier. The automated system as called “where’s daddy.” That in itself should say it all.
Because I think its dangerous, dehumanising rhetoric that is used as cover for the indiscriminate killing of innocents.
One would think that after nine months of war, holding the director of Al Shifa hospital in custody for six of those months, having raided and occupied almost all of the hospitals at least once, even destroying some of them, that Israel would have dossiers overflowing with evidence to support this assertion.
But they don’t.
You’ve got a handful of photos and video of empty tunnels. A few obviously staged video of finding weapons in baby incubators. And thats about it.
Hamas didn’t put their HQ under a hospital. And the siege, raids and desctruction of hospitals by the IDF are warcrimes.
And this is just laughable. There have been 445 attacks on UNRWA facilities. 193 UN staff have been killed, over 500 displaced civilians have been killed. Show us how many of those attacks were because someone was “firing rockets from schoolyards”.
Because you say braindead shit like:
Again, that has nothing to do with my objection here. Since you keep saying totally irrelevant things that don’t address my point at all, I’m forced to conclude that you don’t understand my complaint.
OK, bud. Sure it is.
I have literally dozens of times, but here we go again:
It means bringing someone else in to run Gaza, so that Hamas can’t spring back up. That can be the PA, Israel, Arab states, whatever. But it requires the military defeat of Hamas first.
The fact that you keep citing +972 magazine is hillarious.