Discussion for the Israel-Hamas War: A thread in the Pit

Israel doesn’t need to control what word the English media is going to use, or more generally how the settlements are going to be portrayed, through false, weaponized allegations of antisemitism because there’s no significant opposition that means a damn to whatever Israel wants to do.

As to false, weaponized, allegations of anti-Semitism I point you to your response to a joke about Israel, that could be made about every other ‘war’ as I showed, that you’re citing as, so far the only, evidence you have for me being an anti-Semite.

I get that you’re backpaddling from this position NOW, but how is that post I quoted meant to be read if not as an allegation that Israel IS controlling the English media?

You haven’t addressed what you mean in that post at all, only distanced yourself from the claim you very plainly made.

You showed that the “joke” makes no fucking sense in the context of Ukraine-Russia, yes. The difference between the “joke” about Ukraine, which made no fucking sense whatsoever, and the “joke” about Israel, is the history of blood libel about Jewish people using the blood of gentiles as a “resource”.

You honestly expect me to believe that you didn’t know exactly what you were doing when you went 2 for 2 on matching your rhetoric to classic antisemitic tropes?

Yeah, except;
I never said a fucking thing about "the blood of gentiles’,
I’m one of the few posters that often points out actual, subtle, Blood Libel,
and I’m one of the few that reminds people that the support for Israel by too many conservative Christians is at it’s root anti-Semitic.

But, yeah, I’m the anti-Semite.

No, you just said we are harvesting dead Palestinians for resources.

I’m sure you had absolutely no idea what you were doing.

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I’m sure you don’t mind us so long as we know our place, don’t get uppity, and don’t demand our own country.

And there’s your fundamental problem, you refuse to stop conflating Israeli and Jew.

It’s how the vast majority of Jewish people feel, Ratfuck.

I get that you don’t want to think of Israel as a valid homeland to the Jewish people whether or not they live there, but that, in fact, is how the overwhelming majority of Jews in your country feel. (I know the spread is a bit different among the Jews of this site, but that doesn’t really change the facts).

What number am I thinking of?

I’m rather dubious that you do any thinking.

What does that question even mean?

Or, are you gonna make some crack about how I can read your mind because I’m assuming what you want to think?

I guess we are already at this stage:

Eta: called it!

If you know what I do and do not think it should be obvious.

Apparently I do, since I predicted your obvious dodge!

Ahh, you missed it! You shoulda gone with Six Million and gained, yet another, way to falsely accuse me of being an anti-Semite!

Since you’re still here, do you want to explain how this post is meant to be read?

Again, the obvious read is that even though you now claim that “obviously Israel doesn’t need to control the media because Americans are just so colonialist and racist anyways”, what you were saying at the time of the post is that Israel does indeed control the world’s media through false accusations of anti-semitism. But since you keep claiming not to be an anti-Semite, you couldn’t possibly have been hinting at the “Zionists control the media” canard… There must be some other, obscure meeting that I’m just not clever enough to puzzle out… Right?

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Will we ever get a straight answer? I wouldn’t count on it.

I wouldn’t count on your ability to comprehend a straight answer given your proclivity for mind reading and conclusion jumping.

There you go, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Oh, I’m aware that you were hinting at six million, just like you hinted at harvesting dead Palestinians blood libel or “Israel” controlling the media. I didn’t take you up on the bait, but I’m glad you made it obvious anyways, in case anyone still had any doubts that you’re an anti semitic master baiter.

Like I said, mind reading and conclusion jumping.
(It only occurred to me after it was posted given your desperate need to find anti-Semitism in every comment. That was the ‘’‘’‘bait’‘’‘’ and you swallowed it whole)

Suuuuuure, bud. I totally believe that you are completely unaware of the absurdity of your replies.

Your fake incredulity is literally identical to proto-MAGAts who insisted “You called Bush a chimp, why can’t I call Obama a monkey???”.

Was it mind reading to call them out for their racism?

First, slightly less than half of US Jews say caring about Israel is “essential” to being Jewish.

Second, I don’t see “caring” defined. WTH is meant by that?

What does “emotional attachment” mean? I’m emotionally attached to Ireland due to my mother’s family being half Irish, have even studied Irish Gaelic, was heavily involved in Irish-American culture and activities… but that never meant I wanted to move to Ireland, or approved of everything Irish. Likewise, I might feel an attachment to my Jewish heritage and care whether or not people are suffering in Israel, but that doesn’t mean I want to move to Israel, or approve of everything Israeli.