Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

I learned something today!

When I was in college in the '80s, and Rumpole was regularly running on PBS, a female friend of mine referred to her boyfriend as “He Who Will Not Obey.” :wink:

Or see Post #3052.

I have no idea what that poll question is trying to ask

“Her” is the object of the preposition “for”.
Who is the subject of the phrase “who must be obeyed”, which is in apposition to “her”.

Indeed. As I posted, a batch of posts up.

– whoops, I realized that you probably saw that; though I meant to agree with you, not to assume that you hadn’t.

If you add a comma:

I bought this for her, who must be obeyed.

works just fine.

Picked Dassault because I used to fly in their Falcons a lot, but I didn’t even know they were a defense contractor.

Back when I was a functional manager, we ran into these kinds of situations. For my company, nether Alice nor HR is right. We had salary bands for each grade of engineer (calculated based on salaries within our industry). If we had someone who was very low or even outside the band, we’d sit down with her and let her know that we couldn’t just “adjust” a salary, but we were going to work through the existing processes to raise her salary until she was paid comparably to other engineers in her grade. If someone was at the top of the band or even above the band, they would find out that raises were extremely small or nonexistent. How to get a raise? Work with the boss to get promoted to the next grade (and higher band).

We would never entertain a discussion of “he makes more than me, but we do the same job”. Too many variables and you end up in fruitless discord.

On defense contractors. The list is missing names. The top 5 defense contractors aren’t listed and the “big three” primes aren’t all listed. I’ll give you a hint.

https://www.northropgrumman.com/wp-content/uploads/Northrop-Grumman-and-the-US-Air-Force-Introduce-the-B-21-Raider-the-Worlds-First-Sixth-Generation-Aircraft-news.jpg

Same here. If you want more money, tell me why in a way that doesn’t mention other employees. (FYI, I think we have always granted employees a raise when they’ve asked for one. )

While I understand why employers take this stance, I point out that this helps to perpetuate inequities and I’m willing to bet that it helps employers continue to underpay women and minorities as compared to the wages garnered by white men.

If someone cuts in line in front of you, you could just say… “Dude!”

I think the difference here is there’s a logical system that explains why people with similar roles might be paid dissimilar amounts, and that’s worth discussing. I don’t think this is true for a lot of jobs, where one engineer who has been with the company for a decade gets paid one salary and the new hire brought on with a competitive package gets paid a lot more, because of the current job market. Should the guy who has been with the company for years be upset about that? Absolutely! It’s senseless to have two people with the same roles but different salaries just because of how they were hired and/or progressed through the company. If HR doesn’t have a good answer and there isn’t a good system in place to give him the salary he’s apparently worth, he has every right to leave and find a better salary elsewhere. It’s situations like this that have rendered the “company man” who was happy to work for the same business his whole career extinct. Nowadays, that almost always leads to undervalued labor and a stagnant salary.

My place is heated by both a wood stove and a steam (oil-fueled) radiator system. When the weather’s not very cold, it’s too warm to run the wood stove, and the steam system does all the work. When the weather’s moderately cold, the wood stove does nearly all the work when I’m home, but the steam system comes on late at night/first thing in the morning and also heats the place if I’m not home to feed the wood stove. When the weather’s extremely cold, both of them may be running at once. When the power’s out (which does happen occasionally), it’s all the wood stove.

Overall, I think it’s about 50/50. So didn’t vote.

Milestone noted: this thread, hereinafter referred to as Parasite, has now surpassed the Host thread, “Polls Only”, in number of posts.

[Polls only: No discussion - #3058 by WildaBeast](https://I had to guess regarding the type of heat.) I know that it’s electric but since I rent rather than own and I control none of it, I have no clue what kind of heat it is. Just that it’s generally good at keeping me warm everywhere but my bedroom, and then I’ve got plenty of blankets.

Are there vents which hot air comes out of, or radiators making steam-radiator noises, or electric baseboard heaters?

So, what’s wrong with MPSIMS, and to what would you change it?

Vents the hot air comes out of. I suspect I guessed write but I wasn’t completely sure…

Looks to me like on that poll you’d be voting forced air. Though I am kind of confused at conflating “electric resistive heat” with “forced air”; because “forced air” can be fueled by anything, though electricity is generally involved with the blower; and “electric resistive heat” apparently covers heat pumps and baseboard heaters, which are on the list separately, as well as electric-fueled hot air systems.

And yes, you certainly could have forced air that’s fueled by something else; but “forced air” doesn’t seem to be on the poll by itself.

ETA: @WildaBeast, would you care to explicate?

It includes lots of things that are not mundane, not pointless, or are neither mundane nor pointless; and it bothers some of us to see threads about one’s parents dying, about school shootings, etc. forced under that heading. Or even ones about joyful marriages and major political successes.

It could be renamed “public and private news”, or could be split into MPSIMS, breaking news, and ‘significant personal issues’ threads; or all sorts of various things could be done. But it’s terribly named for much of what actually goes under it.

– there’s a whole thread on this issue, actually. Probably several of them.

I started one awhile ago and it keeps being revived. However I personally gave up trying to change anything on this gradually fading platform.