Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

[Loach]

@thorny_locust

I would consider tired, hungry, and feeling a desperate need to be outside the store that you can’t articulate*, to all count as actual distress. The poll didn’t say “severe” distress.

*including that one because sometimes I have it; I think it’s something in the air, it’s generally worse in places with a lot of outgassing plastics. As an adult, I can both put it at least partially into words, and get myself back out of the store – and I know I can get back out of the store, which helps me to tolerate it for the length of time it takes me to do so. But a three year old might be feeling the same thing, and have no way to say it other than ‘wanna go!’

@Loach

Kids cry because they are in distress. For a little kid that might mean I want a snack or I’m 5 minutes late for my nap. I don’t count those as actual distress.

Distress, by its very nature, is subjective. What’s not distressing to an adult may indeed be very distressing to a kid.

What the adults need to do about it, let alone what an adult who’s not the child’s caretaker needs to do about it, does vary. But the fact that the random person wandering down an aisle doesn’t need to do anything about the child who’s crying because lunch is a little late but should do something about the child who’s crying because Daddy went away and left them there two hours ago doesn’t mean that the first child’s not in distress. Nor does the fact that the caretaker who understands that the problem is that lunch is a little late may well be justified in making lunch a little later.

Then there is no need for a poll. Little kids and babies cry 100% of the time because they feel distressed.

[Thudlow_Boink]

@Loach

Trying to scroll through an online map while driving sounds like a nightmare.

Back before I had a smartphone or a dedicated GPS device, I would sometimes print out maps and/or directions if I was going to be driving somewhere unfamiliar. I imagine I could still do that even if I couldn’t find pre-printed maps.

[thorny_locust]

@Loach

Then there is no need for a poll. Little kids and babies cry 100% of the time because they feel distressed.

@thorny_locust

I took the question to be whether the child might be fake-crying to try to get something out of the parent.

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[thorny_locust]

@Thudlow_Boink

I would sometimes print out maps and/or directions if I was going to be driving somewhere unfamiliar. I imagine I could still do that even if I couldn’t find pre-printed maps

I still do that. And, for that matter, I can still find pre-printed maps, if I look around a little.

I like to be generally oriented. GPS doesn’t do that. For that matter, computer maps, even on a large screen, don’t do it as well as printed maps: because on printed maps, road names don’t disappear if I want to look at a larger area.

[Maus_Magill]

I keep a road atlas in the car for long trips. They don’t need recharing.

[carnut]

@silenus

I don’t drink coffee and I don’t use GPS, so it was easy for me to pick something in that poll.

I don’t drink coffee or have a TV so, yeah…

[puzzlegal]

I do drink coffee, but i don’t own a Keurig, and wouldn’t really miss them if they disappeared.

[squeegee]

@puzzlegal

i don’t own a Keurig

Ditto. They always seemed like a way to maximize trash generated by making coffee, and maximize charging extra for per-cup-coffee, nothing more. I truly don’t get the attraction.

[ParallelLines]

I also voted Keurig, although I do own one. Although I have re-usable cups occasionally with some additional freeze dried coffee to strengthen the final result.

But that’s when I want a fast cup of coffee, not really a good cup of coffee. Most of the time I use a french press. So it was the first thing I could live without.

[susan]

No Keurig for me. Trash, ingesting hot plastic particles; no thanks. An easy choice.

[Loach]

@thorny_locust

@Loach

Then there is no need for a poll. Little kids and babies cry 100% of the time because they feel distressed.

@thorny_locust

I took the question to be whether the child might be fake-crying to try to get something out of the parent.

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Fake crying would be because they are distressed too.

[Wheelz]

I’m assuming that by “daily driver” @squeegee meant “the car I drive most often,” so I answered with that in mind.

But I don’t drive daily; far from it. I’m behind the wheel maybe 2-3 times a month, if that.

[thorny_locust]

@Wheelz

I’m assuming that by “daily driver” @squeegee meant “the car I drive most often,” so I answered with that in mind.

But I don’t drive daily; far from it.

Ditto.

– “Why did you do that?” is IMO an entirely different sort of question than “Where did __ go” or “What just happened?” The latter two are a lot simpler; at least, if “Where did __ go” expects an answer along the lines of ‘to work’ or ‘into the kitchen’, rather than being in the sense of “Where did __ go who just died?”; in which case it’s in a third category. ETA: I didn’t vote in that poll, in large part because I’d expect a much younger child to be able to answer ‘Daddy went into the kitchen’ than to be able to answer ‘Why did you just throw your favorite toy out the window?’

[squeegee]

@Wheelz

I’m assuming that by “daily driver” @squeegee meant “the car I drive most often,” so I answered with that in mind.

Daily driver, first definition.

[Thudlow_Boink]

In @Mean_Mr.Mustard’s latest, updated “Which would you give up” poll, I voted “TV remote”; but I took the liberty of assuming I’d still be able to somehow do everything I’d need to do with my TV even without the remote. (Since, nowadays, many TVs and other electronic devices seem to have controls that are only accessible from the remote.)

[pjd]

That seems contradictory to me !
(did you mean “not many TVs …” ?)

[susan]

I prefer not to answer public polls.

[Thudlow_Boink]

No, I think I said what I meant. I’d rethink giving up the remote if it meant not being able to use the TV.

[Loach]

I like having a garage door opener. I use it everyday. But I could much more easily give that up than the other things.

[carrps]

I’ve got bad knees and getting in and out of the car to open a gate (which is what we have) is a pain. I’m getting old, heck, I am old, and it will be harder and harder for me to lift a garage door…if I had one.