Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 1)

When my cousin from Michigan was in the Marines, he was stationed at Fort Pendelton (near San Diego). So, he spent his off-duty weekends with us in the L.A. area (lots of stories about that). But once he “forgot” to tell us he needed to be back on base by some particular time that was really close, so we raced to get him to the Greyhound bus station. Since he’d left it so late, he missed the bus, so we had to haul ass to drive him all the way back.

He made it, but my sister and I had missed dinner, so we decide to eat at Ship’s (nothing beat a Shipshape burger) when we got back near home. We were in such a hurry to get my cousin back to the base on time, I’d left barefoot. I got kicked out of Ship’s. In front of one of my high school teachers. Horrors.

Camp. Soldiers fort, Marines camp.

I know that. Dang. Not enough coffee?

Happy to oblige. I’ll probably have one later.

I have nothing that old in my refrigerator. I won’t comment on what may or may not have been going on before my wife moved in.

I’m pretty anal about cycling stuff through the fridge. I voted BBQ sauce because there is a “Bottle of BBQ sauce that once belonged to Theseus” in the left door. It started as a bottle of Sweet Baby Ray’s Hickory, but is now used to house the dribs and drabs from other bottles of sauce. It gets used fairly often itself, so there is no knowing how old any particular dollop could be. There’s enough preservatives in there that it really doesn’t matter.

The only reason I haven’t got quite a batch of that stuff over a year old in my refrigerator is that, within the last year, I got a new refrigerator. I got short notice of the delivery sooner than I expected and, in the rush to empty the old one so they would take it, managed to get myself to throw a lot of things out.

– I’m pretty good about cycling the stuff that I use. But people come to visit, and they leave things that I don’t use, but that I think either I’ll use sometime or they’ll come back and use . . .

You reminded me that I got a new refrigerator less than a year ago, so I think it’s safe to say that nothing in there now is more than a year old.

Do people really keep things like soy sauce and vinegar in the refrigerator? Why?

We’ve had ketchup in there for over a year before, when one of the kids had moved out but I was still shopping at Sam’s Club. We have three or four types of mustard, and a couple of those don’t get eaten fast. My father-in-law loved pancakes, but he died three years ago and the jug of maple syrup is still a quarter full.

Pineapple, yesterday. Today it will be raspberries for dessert, or a pear.

Because of homelessness and subsequent move, the only thing in my fridge that is over a year old is some maple syrup, which I managed to keep chilled the entire time I was without a fridge. I take my maple syrup seriously. I do keep soy sauce in the fridge but that’s just because my mother did and I never questioned it. Vinegar, no.

I don’t keep vinegar in the fridge, but I do keep soy sauce there. I’m of the school that if the manufacturer says to refrigerate it, I refrigerate it.

I don’t know if this is the kind of “asked to leave an establishment” the poll had in mind, my my college marching band was asked to leave a hotel once. Our football coach hosted a talk radio show, and when team was playing in a bowl game he was doing the show from his hotel room. He had the bright idea of having the marching band assemble outside his room and hold the microphone out the window, so we could play the fight song on the radio. Except he didn’t actually think to clear that with the hotel first. So the band just showed up at the hotel (the team was staying at a different hotel from the band) and started playing. And as you might imagine, the other guests weren’t happy about having a marching band playing outside the hotel, and the hotel asked us to leave.

I have a bottle of sake that’s been in my fridge who knows how many years. I counted it as white wine since sake wasn’t on the list.

I don’t keep vinegar in the fridge, so I didn’t select it in the poll, but I have some that’s probably over a year old.

I’m afraid if I keep vinegar too long it will turn into wine.

I don’t know about things like ketchup, mustard or mayonnaise. I never touch them. I’m guessing my wife uses at a rate that they wouldn’t be there a year or more.

I assumed it did, so I voted “yes”. I’ve often been among the last to leave a museum or something, and pretty explicitly encouraged to leave. I have always accepted that encouragement and left.

I have vinegar that’s more than a year old that’s not refrigerated, but i recently noticed that one of the bottles of vinegar was in the fridge, and i decided to leave it there. Some weird vinegar we sometimes use for Chinese cooking?

I was surprised at how many of those things i have. Like, hmm, i know i bought that maple syrup before the pandemic. Maybe what’s in the fridge now was in one of the sealed jars less than a year ago… (I bought two gallons, boiled it, and canned it in glass jars. I only refrigerate it once i brush the seal.) But i bet that still counts for this poll.

While I do have soy sauce, ketchup, pickles, etc. in the fridge, only the mustard, hot sauce, and maple syrup are older than one year.

We were away for 6 weeks during summer and we made sure to finish a number of condiments before we left, and then started new afterwards.

Eggs are not in the fridge, as I am outside the U.S. But those are certainly not over a year old. :exploding_head:

It’s the MREs that make you do that.

It’s a matter of convenience. Having grown up around hundreds of chickens, and selling eggs, I know they don’t need refrigeration, but the fridge has a handy-dandy ‘egg storage’ place to keep them.

Even my mother kept ‘ready-at-hand’ eggs in the fridge while there might be a wire basket with few dozen sitting in the pantry.

I keep soy sauce in the fridge because the label says to and I don’t use it often, so I never had the urge to experiment with room temp storage.

I keep regular cane syrup (and Karo syrup, and molasses) in the pantry. That stuff keeps for decades. Is maple syrup less stable enough that refrigeration seems necessary to some?

An unopened maple syrup container will keep, as near as I can tell, close to forever.

IME, an opened one will eventually start to grow mold; but it’ll take a lot longer to do so in the refrigerator. It occurs to me that I may well have maple syrup more than a year old in the refrigerator; it wouldn’t have been tossed unless moldy at the time. I don’t use it as much as I used to.

On states to veto a transfer to, it’s simple. No state that went for Trump in 2016 or 2020 is worth keeping my job if I have to live in a dumpster fire.

In a real-life example, a few (5ish) years ago, our business unit’s president decided that the company should build up our workforce in Florida and draw down the workforce in southern California. Both sites are located near the beach.

The president, who often stated that he had moved a dozen times in his career and look where he ended up :roll_eyes:, sent out an announcement that the work was shifting to Florida and employees were going to receive transfer notices to the Florida site and would have two weeks to accept or reject the transfer, but there would be “consequences” to turning down a transfer. Note, this was addressing a population of engineers with significant aerospace experience and the clearances to go with it (e.g. they could walk into a higher paying job at a competitor any time they wanted).

A few weeks after this announcement, I was talking to one of the president’s direct reports and I asked how the transfers were going. He told me the acceptance rate was in the low single digit percentages.

Within the next couple of months HR started a campaign labelled “bring the work to where the workers are”. :laughing: As far as I know, no one ever suffered any “consequences” for rejecting a transfer.