Discussion thread for the "Polls only" thread (Part 2)

I’ve seen almost no news about it. But i guess i don’t see a lot of news.

It’s all over my news feed. New York Times, the Guardian, and local papers.

I just opened up some news apps, and it’s the top story in WaPo, the NYT, the WSJ, AP, and the Guardian. Reuters leads with a story about surveillance at peaceful protests.

Mrs Magill is traveling this weekend, and I get very anxious in crowds without her. I stayed home and cleaned house.

I assumed there wasn’t going to be any protest activity here in Sweden, but now that I actually checked I found the nokings.org website… which listed a “No Dictators Stockholm” gathering yesterday. So I could have gone, but didn’t. :upside_down_face:

ETA: the reason it’s called “no dictators” instead of “no kings”? Here’s what the details section had to say:

Since Sweden has a respected monarchy please do not bring any ‘No Kings’ signs or any messaging that could potentially disrespect our host country.

I was wondering how countries with monarchs were handling the whole “No Kings” thing.

I wish they had picked a different name for the movement. There are a lot of perfectly okay kings in other countries right now.

As an American in Canada, my king is a lot less harmful than my president. But people like a simple slogan to rally around.

Yup, there are kings in England, Denmark, Sweden, and no doubt several other countries that have never done me any harm, and some of them even seem to be somewhat positive influences on the world.

Someone at the “No Kings” rally yesterday read a big chunk of the Declaration of Independance, though, and I gotta say, a lot of the points there were very relevant to what Trump has been doing.

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

I bolded the parts that seemed particularly relevant. (all bolding mine, obviously not in the original.)

Yeah. “No Tyrants” is probably better than “No Kings,” but I’m sure people were afraid that the unwashed masses wouldn’t understand the word.

I think people in the US will more readily see signs of wanting to be a king than signs of wanting to be a dictator, though they are all there. There’s a lot of baggage and skepticism around the idea that Trump is a tyrant. It’s just a game of semantics but I think it reads better to potential allies as No Kings.

It reminded me of the Hyenas in the Lion King, when Scar is trying to organize them. “No kings, no kings, la la la la la da”

Mind you, if I got to re-read and re-watch stuff- forever, But un-touched, I had to say days.

I think it’s OK to take more than one bag, presuming you’re going to use them as intended, but 50 is way too many. But you might have more than one dog and they might not all shit in the same spot or at the same time.

And I’d expect to be asked what version of potato I wanted with my steak. I’d also be mildly surprised if some type of fries wasn’t one of the options.

Yeah. I forgot the fries option. And, of course, the server would ask you which type of potato you want. My poll, inartfully written, was about one’s expectations of what type of potato typically comes with a steak.

Of course, they’d also ask what cut of steak, too…

Ah. I don’t think I have any specific expectations, other than that I would expect there to be some potato options.

I answered “baked,” because though most restaurants which serve steaks are likely to give you several options for your potato, a baked potato seems to be the default option, IME.

My husband once ordered a plain baked potato (no butter, nothing) at Ruth’s Chris. It wasn’t even a particularly well cooked potato.

They charged us $11.

Mrs Magill performed the heimlich maneuver on me after some food got lodged in my throat. We were at a tech rehearsal dinner for the community theater we both volunteered at. Everyone was having a good time, and suddenly I couldn’t breathe. Knowing that people would think I was fucking around if I made the international “I’m choking” sign (actors :roll_eyes:), I calmly reached over and gripped her thigh and did not let go until she looked at me. By that time I was apparently started to turn blue. With a cry of “Oh, shit!” She jumped up got behind my chair and knocked the wind out of me, dislodging the ice cream (Yes. Ice cream.), and literally saving my life.

Ah, that makes more sense. Because my strong expectation is that the menu tells me what type of potato I’m getting (and what type of steak). But if i just know, “i plan to go to a steak place, and i plan to order a steak” then i might have guesses about what potatoes might be available, or even what steaks might be on the menu.

Some general expectations

Steak options will include
Fillet mignon
Ribeye
Something on the bone, probably a porterhouse
And probably a sirloin

Sides at a fancy steak place will cost extra, so no default potatoes. At a regular steak place, i expect fries, possibly sweet potatoes fries, and probably a baked potato, maybe with stuff on (in) it. Maybe mashed.