Things like “the races should be kept separate and preserved for their… uniqueness” too, apparently. That’s a perfectly fine idea to advance on this board.
ETA: The example I have in mind is in IMHO, not GD, to be fair. Not sure if that makes allowing it to stand there as opposed to GD makes it better or worse.
Now that you know, you’ll be able to experience the frustration of not easily accessing it when following links to old threads.
Forgot about 2016, did we? How about
Are reports of Hillary Clinton throwing tantrums credible?
The arrogance of the left-wing
This Isn’t Hillary Clinton’s Fault. Where’s Obama?
“We told you so!” (Anti-Clinton Rant)
Clinton is a war criminal and Obama also, and a murderer to boot.
Please give a link to the most recent GD threads. Thank you.
We have the pit for that. The two debate forums have clear rules that aren’t that hard to follow.
Yes (Kind of)
I was warned for “Being a jerk” (Not) Suprisingly the “Get over it” was not warned.
Given the modding at the time my warning was perhaps deserved but not one of the post that accused me of being sexist because I didn’t like Clinton was warned. Why not?
Dude, you said “shove [it] up your ass.” You think that’s the same level as “get over it”?
What’s lost is in that thread the repeated accusations that were thrown at me of being sexist* because she sounds like a harpy. I had had enough and none of the mods did anything about the posts I reported. So the rule is you can accuse a person of being sexist but being offended by that accusation and responding accordingly is warnable.
I nNever said it was at the same level. But isn’t it being a jerk to tell someone to get over it when they say they don’t like the sound of someone’s voice? Isn’t it being a jerk when someone says “I don’t like this candidate who is black/female” when they respond “You’re a racist/sexist”?
Please balance a ball on your nose and clap your flippers. Thank you in advance.
“Harpy” IS sexist. You don’t get a punch card where you get to say a certain number of sexist things about a certain number of women before you get called a sexist. Use the “n-word”, you’re racist. Use a word that’s hundreds of years old, you’re sexist.
You’re on the internet. If you’re older than, you’re pretending or you’re just hostile to looking up ANYTHING.
Like “harpy.” Women Portrayed as Animals/Beasts
So, not for criticizing Clinton. Also, you’re still here, thereby demonstrably not “out within a heartbeat” as **LAZombie **claimed.
Anything else ? Or can we conclusively file this under Shit_That_Doesn’t_Happen.txt ?
You can take this URL:
[NOPARSE]https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=885910[/NOPARSE]
and replace that last number (after the “t=”) with the thread ID. If you don’t know the thread ID, you can usually find it by looking at the “Previous Thread” and “Next Thread” buttons at the bottom of the page. If you are replying to a thread, the thread ID is at the end of the hyperlink near the top right, the one that reads the thread’s name, right under “Log Out”.
Frustrating perhaps, but no more frustrating than typing out the BBCode for any other link.
~Max
For what it’s worth, I’m on the professor’s side in this hypothetical. Appealing to the negative consequences that you write into the hypothetical is not enough to convince me that the professor is in the wrong in the general case.
~Max
Moderator Note
If you want to be snippy, take it to the Pit.
Seriously? You’re still clinging to this “I was talking about her voice” excuse?
As I explained to you at the time, “harpy” does not mean “person with an irritating voice.” It is a gender-specific insult meaning “a shrewish woman” (Merriam-Webster), “A grasping, unpleasant woman” (Oxford), and “a scolding, nagging, bad-tempered woman” (Dictionary.com).
You were justifiably called on the carpet for repeatedly using a sexist insult, and you tried to wriggle out of it by inventing your own definition of “harpy.” And apparently you’re still butthurt over it. Jesus.
Well, that is unsurprising but it is the status quo here already. I know you love debating and try to keep emotion out but would you really be disappointed if we no longer debated whether blacks are intellectually inferior around here anymore?
One criticism of Hillary you’d have heard from the right (especially during her presidential runs) is that she’s “shrill”. That is sometimes referred to as being sexist, see below.
My guess is that Saint Cad was remembering that controversy and defending it (since “shrill” absolutely references a person’s voice) despite the fact that the word he used (harpy) is a completely different and unrelated term.
Just my WAG here.
Part of being conservative is having a tendency to keep the status quo. (the “conserve” part?)
Let me tell you a little story. Once upon a time, at the turn of the century, I thought that girls were inferior creatures. They couldn’t be cool, they couldn’t be smart, they couldn’t be fun like us boys. I didn’t tell anybody, or think to do so, this was self-evident to me. I was mean to girls. Apparently I would cut up their hair or spit on them, etc. One summer I became friends with this really cool guy (named “Brett” I think) at one of the lovely beaches here. We did like, sandcastles and shell collecting, made shark-tooth necklaces, Florida stuff. About three hours into our friendship we went into the water. He took off his shirt, and to my astonishment was wearing a bikini. “Why are you wearing a bikini like a girl?” “I am a girl. Is that a problem, Max?”
Nervous laugh. Worldview shattered. I was so ashamed, and still am, to this day.
I cannot stress how important that lesson was and is to me as a person. It is so incredibly easy for me to understand how a person might grow up and never realize how wrong they are about other people.
I guess it’s not a perfect example, but life doesn’t always give me perfect examples to build on. I’ve noticed that people project themselves upon others when using the internet. You can see it happen in this very thread. The internet presents a great opportunity to reach all of those ignorant people who may never listen to your words in real life, but do so here. I want this to be a place of learning, like that beach was for me nearly two decades ago.
I want someone - me, you, whoever - to come here, bring their bigotry, their ignorance, have their world shattered, be ashamed, and then become a better person for it. That’s my vision of fighting ignorance.
~Max
With all due respect, that sounds like an early childhood memory. We get adult bigots here. They aren’t going to have your soft focus gentle awakening. You aren’t going to pile some words together that will remotely equal the impact this story had on you as a child. Never.
It was a childhood memory. Epiphany moments are not limited to one’s childhood. I don’t know how it works as one grows older, but during my eight or nine months on these boards I have shifted to a different foundation for my personal moral system. I also flipped from entertaining the possibility of physicalism/epiphenomenalism to physicalism/substance-dualism. As a direct result of participating in debates, here. There were moments where I just realized that I was wrong, and sometimes that someone else was right.
You have to realize that some of these people, on the alt-right or whatever you want to call it, they are young dudes like me. It would have been this easy for me to be one of them. That was the point of my story. I’ve met some of them online and in person. They aren’t all stupid and they aren’t all rotten to the core. It’s not too late to talk sense into them.
Have you read Plato? Maybe bigots won’t let us speak back in the cave, but if someone should happen to stumble halfway into the light, covering his eyes with his hands, shouldn’t we be there to say, “lift your hands and open your eyes”? Lest he fall back inside and convince his compatriots that there is nothing to see out here.
~Max