I’ve heard mutliple definitions of “hipster” so until that’s more properly defined, I don’t think you’ll get a consistent response.
I think of hipsters as being poser hippies. People who spend a lot of money trying very hard to look like they’re not trying very hard, to look scruffy and like they don’t care about their appearance. The “oh I just threw on my old jumper and sneakers (which cost me $500 and are one-of-a-kind)” effect.
Oh, crap, now I’ve started teaching myself one of the songs she’s playing. I totally didn’t mean to do that. This keeps happening, though. I’m learning the guitar, and whenever I see clips like that, I keep thinking: “damn it, if some twelve year old doofus on YouTube can play that, then I can, too.”
I personally don’t think this is a useful definition. Because it means that no one will self identify as such. You’ve described what they do, but in a way that doesn’t have anything to do with why they do it.
They aren’t posing as hippies. Sure, the two sets are similar in origin, but the direction they take is different. The whole fashion thing is taking back control by making popular what shouldn’t be. Everything is ironic. The fact that you spend so much on stuff is the point. They really aren’t anti-materialism. They are just about embracing what society says is uncool, and making it cool.
The girl in the videos may not have the fashion, but she has the attitude. Yeah, maybe indie geek is a closer approximation, but, really, those are all quite similar. The hipster just goes further into exploring the irony inherent in the clash of geek and mainstream culture.
Geeks don’t give a shit, hipsters do. There’s a big world of difference there.
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Say what now? You sure you’re not projecting? What ‘attitude’ do you perceive her having?
I couldn’t identify a ‘hipster girl’ if I had to. I wouldn’t fault the girl on the utube thing. I guess I’m way too old; she’s attractive in my eyes and other than going to France, I like what the OP said the girl would like.
Well he’s out of luck if he’s anywhere near my campfire. Then again it’s Rush songs I’d be singing so maybe I’m more of a geek than a hipster.
My lack of concern backs up that feeling.
Well, as semi-officially the least hip person on the whole board, my reaction was,
“Awwww. Isn’t she cute?”
Aside from minor musical style differences I remember this girl from the sixties, the seventies, the eighties, and the nineties, and the last decade.
So, guys like pretty young girls, and will at least pretend to like it when they sing.
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You know, you are trying to point out that you don’t like someone based their superficial attributes - which makes it clear that you care about superficial attributes. You may not like their choices of superficial attributes “hipsters” take on, but you are just as guilty of superficiality as anything you try to point out in them.
Granted, there is are labels of “hipster” and “twee rock” and the whole Brooklyn / Portlandia vibe - and, if I was asked to judge a stereotype, I might come up with a cute critique. But to dismiss an individual simply by writing off their superficial look?
As for this girl? Meh - she’s cute like the original MTV veejay Martha Quinn, and can play decently*. Whether she’s wrapped in a hipster package is not the point…if you are trying to get past the superficial.
*although her cover of Thirteen is really bad, and misattributed to Elliot Smith when it was written by Alex Chilton and played by his band Big Star - and their original is far, far superior…
And speaking of Thirteen, that’s about her age, by the looks of her.
I’ve never known a hipster to self-identify as such. It’s a label placed on them from outsiders. At least that’s the case in my experience.
The two videos you linked make her look younger to me. And I’m 28, so I don’t think it’s solely a case of those-damn-kids-today-itis. She’s got a young look to her; and as someone who spent a while being frustrated by looking younger, I don’t doubt she is, but she doesn’t look it to me.
I mean, I’m not saying she’s not pretty; she really is, and in a couple of the other videos, she approaches hot. But in the two you linked, she just looks like a kid to me. Nothing in those pegs on the romantic-interest-o-meter.
If she didn’t have the acoustic guitar, I would in no way think of her as a hipster. She’s just a pretty young girl.
Exactly. Exactly.
They’re like weaboos. Except not as bad.
God dammit. You have no idea how much time I just wasted googling weaboo and hipster together.
But NOT identifying as a hipster is the single most important attribute of the hipster. No one says they’re a hipster. Look to the guy ragging on stupid hipsters the most. There’s your hipster.
ETA: Hipster. Hipster. HIPSTER. It’s lost all meaning for me now.
Really? Most teenage girls don’t look and dress like her …
Even without the guitar she looks like she could be a member of an indie pop band. So doesn’t that mean she’s a hipster?
I prefer the old style hipsters. But I agree with your post, hipster hatred is the main sport of hipsters.
I was gonna google it too, but I am afraid its like bedbugs…something I am better off just not knowing about.
I don’t think a single person in this thread has bought your Orion that she looks or dresses in any distinctive way. But you’re going to stick with it?