This seems a little odd to me - what information are you hoping to confirm with an ID?
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Age?
This is the funniest, best description of “that awkward moment” I’ve ever read. “Thanks for not raping me but I’m bored,” indeed.
I went with the flow. Sometimes no kiss. Sometimes a readjustment of clothing was called for.
It was a bit hasty, wasn’t it? Five seconds between getting together and breaking up is kind of fast, even for me. Perhaps we should give it a second chance?
And by second, I mean 1 second. 
If the date went well, I always got big brownie points for asking her if I could kiss her good night. And then it was a light kiss, not a spit-swapper.
All of the above for me too. I wanted to kiss my guy before we even went on a first date. Our first “dates” were not of the conventional type. They were at the gym working out together and getting to know each other when we got off work. You can tell a lot about what’s to come from the way somebody kisses.
And about the: “life is short.” Yep, it sure is. I know that all too well and so does he. My mother died when I was two years old at the young age of 21. She never got to live her life. What I know of her is what I’ve been told. Her death shaped my personality in some ways. I don’t like to waste time. I don’t want to live in the …“I wonder what would have happened if I had…” One can still navigate through life carefully and responsibly while taking chances. I took one roughly three years ago and it landed me where I am today. We kissed by our cars after one of those workouts. It was the kind of kiss that changes everything even if you don’t know it at the time.
I like my lover.
You’re not really making me too excited for the make-up sex.
I wouldn’t date anyone who wasn’t already a really close friend, so I probably wouldn’t mind kissing if he wanted to, though I doubt I’d enjoy it.
This question reminds me of something I personally saw and still laugh about to this day. Just like Westerners will buy stuff containing Chinese or Japanese writing without knowing what it says, so Thais will put on anything with English writing on it without first checking it out. I once stepped onto an elevator in an office high-rise in Bangkok and almost hurt myself trying to keep from laughing myself silly. This was because the sole other passenger in the elevator was a very lovely, attractive young Thai lady, a very delicate-looking flower, whose T-shirt proudly proclaimed: “I FUCK ON THE FIRST DATE.”
Rules, heh.
IME there is attraction or there isn’t. The woman I have been dating recently we kissed on the first date and that first little kiss went to quote Vir from Babylon 5, “If kisses could kill, that one would have flattened several small towns”. The first night we spent together we were all over each other but ended up not having sex until the next morning after another couple hours of kissing and cuddling.
I will usually go for the kiss on the first date if things have been going well. Hug first, if shes squeezing back like she likes it, take the shot.
I’ve been asked for ID before the first date, in the shape of a credit card number. :dubious:
I don’t have any rules about kissing on the first date other than if I like you, I’ll kiss you, and if I don’t, I won’t. Pretty simple.
I enjoy kissing but then I’m a touchy kind of person. I kiss on the first date if it seem appropriate.
Especially the OP… Woof!
Most of my first dates that go well (meaning mutual) have a kiss somewhere in the night. It isn’t necessarily the end, either, especially if it’s a date that goes on for a few hours and starts with dinner, goes on to drinks, meandering to a desert place… quite often there’s a bit of kissing that leads to making out at some point in the night. And most of the time, making out on someone’s couch while you drink/talk/watch movies/whatever leads to sex later on that night or that morning.
So no, I don’t think that there’s anything wrong with kissing on a good first date, and there’s also nothing wrong with waiting a bit too.
Oh, and, not saying you used it as one, but this is an excellent tactic. Most women will have some variation on “I won’t sleep with you tonight.” And the proper response is, of course “I didn’t expect you to.” Now… if you’re cuddling all night with little sleep? Well, I’ve never once had a woman hang out at my apartment over night without morning sex the next day. Just sayin’, is all.
Get a room, you two. Or an elevator.
I have had two first dates where the woman explicitly said that for seemingly no reason. In both cases, we ended up fucking.
The reason, IMO, is that especially in our culture women are trained that it’s wrong to want sex and doubly wrong to engage in it casually. Women who are down to fuck will, still a lot of the time, want to make it clear that it’s not Slut Sex, and they’re a Good Girl. The fig leaf of “we’re not going to fuck tonight” serves well enough. I’ve had far more than just 2 times of that, and each time…
This seems like a case of protesting too much.
If someone makes it a point to say “I’m over my ex” out of nowhere/when it’s tangentially related, chances are good they’re not.
If someone does the same with “I don’t care what other people think”, chances are they do.
Sometimes people try to project the diametrical opposite of what they do/are.
How did they turn around from “No sex tonight” to having sex that night and did they remark upon that apparent change of mind later?
It really depends. In a lot of these sorts of situations, it’s difficult to define exactly what constitutes a first date. Even if one does online dating, sometimes the first time you meet isn’t so much a date. Meeting for a quick coffee isn’t the same thing as going to lunch or dinner. When it comes to someone you know another way, it’s not uncommon to have a kiss before any date.
Even in cases where there’s a pretty clear first date, at least for me, it’s still going to be inconsistent. Assuming the date goes well, sometimes kissing or a bit more follows, sometimes it’s just not quite right. But I think I tend to be on the more conservative side on that, as I’ve been told by my friends that, in general, no kiss means it went badly. I would say that kissing on a first date that went well, is generally pretty normal and the idea of “I don’t kiss on a first date” is pretty much gone with most people my age and younger.
Kissing is way more intimate than most anything. It’s the first thing to go when you lose your attraction to someone. Boinking goes on long after.
Depends on the date of course.