I perceive that you’re trying to understand a lot of broad and complicated concepts but you have your own biases that make you want to break these down into simple black and white issues. Nothing about race, gender, culture or history are simple issues that can be broken down into a single sound byte, much as social media would like that to be. If you think you have it all figured out, you probably don’t know enough about the subject to have an informed opinion. Which is fine, we all start out that way, and the fact that you even give a shit at age 16 is laudable, but when you’re starting with so little knowledge, it’s better to ask questions than make broad assertions.
This applies to adults, too. A couple of areas in which I think I have a high level of ignorance are US law and general economics. You may note that in threads where law or general economics are at play, I’m pretty much doing nothing but asking questions. I don’t feel informed enough to have an opinion.
Well and I mean I keep hearing about the war on men too, so that’s why I am getting into this as well. Any books around the niche topic black masculinity? I have gotten 3 ideas of a book already myself to read , but something that focuses on the ideas of being a man in black culture.
I found one called the Marginalization of the Black Male, one called Manning the Race and one called We Real Cool: Black Men and Masculinity.
I’d suggest backing off the MRA ‘war on men’ stuff. It may feel good at some levels to think that you’re oppressed (hint: you’re not) and read articles that make you feel that way and show you things that don’t work in your favor in society as proof. But unless you want to open your eyes and study how women are oppressed in our society and how that affects the things you’re reading about men, you’re not getting a complete picture of anything. You’re walking down a rabbit hole of self-deception. One that’s telling you that you are being wronged and have a right, nay, a DUTY to be angry and fight back, without any kind of understanding how this wrongs others.
That isn’t going to be a productive path as a white male.
I have autism and I been bullied incredibly bad for it, especially 4th grade and with my autism I having quite a struggle for empowerment
Culturally speaking I ain’t white, I have white skin, but at room temperature[more or so] j am technally beige. I am not American like I also mentioned. I am Mexican/Aegentine. I kind of also like the semantics sorrounding Hispanics in here lol.
Sexual abuse and assault are still big issues and I don’t deny them. On the other hand, there could better alternatives rather than wanting to completely weaken/soften men. There is something called the Good Men project[literally]
Link btw https://goodmenproject.com
And that said to hell both MRAs and 3rd-wave feminism. And to prove I am not biased there is no “especially” in here. Maybe MRAs could be reasonable on stuff such as parenting rights or sexual liberation for men, still they are just as bad. 3rd wave feminism I heard is supposed to help add more freedom and choices by breaking gender barriers which I suppose is a good thing, but still.
Well, I’m going to go back to the whole 'I watched it on Youtube" thing.
If you’re “learning” stuff from youtube, odds are spectacularly high that you’re learning bullshit. Temper it with following up on real sites for real information. If mainstream sites aren’t verifying what you heard on youtube, consider the youtube source to be biased and move on.
Luciano, on the one hand you seem to be saying that men are being attacked because people want them to not be masculine enough–not be “real men”–but on the other hand, you are saying that black men are shown as too masculine. Care to undict this contra?
Look, I’m not saying that there isn’t a long history of this sort of thing. That would be foolish. Bottom line is that humans are bastards and, as I say, “The History of Man is the History of Man’s inhumanity to Man.”
A 7 minute scene from American Gods, where Anansi, the African trickster god, appears to a praying slave on a slave ship and tells them what the future holds for black people in America.
Yeah exactly.
So while masculinity are being supposedly under attack, it just seems that at the same time the attacks seems to apply to certain men. Straight white Christian men in particular. Is a low key way of pretending to attack all men.
Kind of the same way intersectional feminism would say to care for all women. Then there comes a time the straight white cis female priviledge card is added to take them out of the group.
