Do you want fries with that? (McDonald's employee beats customers)

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I feel a little bad for each of them. The women, the aggressors, because I don’t think they believed they’d get cracked over the head with a metal fryer stick. I feel bad for the guy because he just got out prison not one year ago and may already be going back for a long, long time.

It’s difficult to control your own violent response in only a few seconds time. Add to that the…bad habits he may have picked up defending himself/his reputation in prison and you have a person set up for failure from the get go.

However, a tiny part of me wished that the guy had jumped over the counter and clubbed that shrieking moron customer. I’ve seen dozens of fights like this on “fight sites” and literally 20-50% of them feature a shrieking white lady. It’s almost like you can’t film a street fight unless you have one.

That was one of my reactions too. :smiley:

There really wasn’t anything that could/should have been done to intervene until the slap, and then it was “on” and it all happened so quickly there wasn’t much to do. The one cow-orker that ended up repeatedly trying to stop him and cease the weapon did follow like he was going to try to break up any fisticuffs, but as soon as that long stick started getting wildly swung around at near the speed of light, he was wise to retreat and avoid getting his eye gouged out.

Except detaining them until the police arrived was clearly not his intention whatsoever. He was out for blood.

I’m a pretty pacifistic “give peace a chance guy” as there is, but I wonder if we are looking at the same video. I don’t think the guy over reacted at all. The last time he clearly hit the woman to the right, she was clearly getting back up. It looks to me like he was reacting to some action when he hit the person to the left again. And the metal pipe looks about the size of a dowel rod, I’m quite surprise you could fracture a skull with it.

I was expecting to see something like the Rodney King beating, but this wasn’t even in the same league.

And that blonde screamer couldda used a couple of shots in her yap too!

Clearly, he was lacking in moral fiber. :cool:

I watched the video with the sound off, so perhaps this is explained, but why was someone filming this before the fighting started? That makes me think pre-meditation.

I wondered about that, but the shouting seems to have started before the video did, so perhaps the recording was started just in case something more interesting developed.

And he was a Mac. Only one button on his controller, so it’s no wonder there wasn’t a fine gradient of control! And I’m guessing he wasn’t built with the most powerful processor on the assembly line.

They were already screaming “DO something!!” repeatedly when the video starts. People film bizarre arguments like crazy bitches shrieking at a McDonald’s cashier because he has to check their fifty, to show their friends the stupid/weird thing that happened to them. And sometimes, stuff like that escalates into a fistfight and then you have YouTube gold.

I just can’t manage any sympathy for these two crazy-ass bitches. And yes, they’re crazy. Sane people don’t scream at someone for authenticating a 50 dollar bill, nor do they then escalate he altercation to slapping. Sane people especially do not climb over the goddamn counter to go after someone.

It’s a shame they got hurt as badly as they did, it really is. But they’ll heal, and maybe they’ve learned that when you start shit, you don’t get a promise who’ll finish it. The cashier, though–his life isn’t going to heal from this. He’ll most likely go back to prison where the “fight till they stay down” response will only get intensified, and when he gets out he’s never going to be able to get a job. He might have had a chance to get his life back on track, but that’s gone now. That, to me, is the real shame here.

Yeaaahh, I gotta say that I don’t really have a ton of sympathy for anyone involved. Maybe the bitches have learned that when you start shit, you don’t get a promise who’ll finish it. (I’m not sure what that means, but whatever, I’m rolling with it.) And maybe the asshole has learned that when you start beating on someone with a pipe, you often go to jail.

All of them can stay in jail where they obviously belong.

I kept waiting for the guy in the video to yell “You want fries with this, bitch? How about an apple pie with this?”

Regards,
Shodan

“You like apple pies?! [whack] How do you like them apple pies?!”

Should he have stopped once the women were on the ground? Sure. Unfortunately, people don’t come with an off switch for their emotions. It’s not like he had five minutes to cool down. I’d be inclined to give him a pass on this.

(Bolding above mine.)

I’ve been attacked twice.

Second time was, well I don’t know what it was actually, but possibly a carjacking attempt. I was in my vehicle stopped at a light and a man opened the passenger door and came across the seat at me. He had no weapon that I could see, and was saying something but I don’t know (or care) what.

My single, only and overriding reaction was absolute rage that someone would violate my space. I am talking white-hot, absolute, pure, fucking rage. As in how DARE someone do this. I shrieked like a banshee and dove at him, hitting him as hard and often as I could. I screamed and punched and punched and screamed and screamed and he started yelling “hey, hey, HEY!” and then he ran away.

:smiley:

I am (and was then) a small, non-violent (LOL), middle-aged white woman without any sort of criminal record. I volunteer in cat and dog rescue and, no really, weekly at a domestic violence shelter.

I can think of three times, actually, where I have been physically confronted for absolutely no good or valid reason and what I felt each time was the same emotion - absolute fury and indignation.

I cannot honestly say that given a weapon, I would be sensible enough to stop hurting someone who is egregiously and violently violating my space right in the heat of the moment. As someone who has been physically attacked, my visceral, lizard-brain response is to eliminate the threat, as in totally, as in killed dead. Reason doesn’t enter into this.

It’s not right, but it is what it is. Note that Rayon McIntosh was never charged with murder, but with manslaughter - a whole 'nother animal.

What he did was not right, absolutely not. However, those two aggressive women started it, and apparently couldn’t finish it - sucks to be them but what the hell did they expect? Everyone to roll over and play harmless just because they were women?

So in that short time that we saw him in the video, at what point would the behavior shown by the McDonald’s employee go from “understandable keyed up defensive aggression” to unacceptable deviant behavior (in your opinion)?

If he not only hadn’t stopped, but had targeted the heads of the women (which it sounds like he did, as one suffered a skull fracture but it’s not clear when that fracture was suffered), would you still be inclined to give him a pass?

Why does everyone keep acting like there were only two options here? Either act like the McDonald’s employee did and bash the living shit out of the unarmed women after they were compromised and no longer a threat OR do nothing and acquiesce simply because they are women?? Um, there is a whole middle ground here called the sane response. You defend yourself against these two ridiculous drunk dames, yes. But when they are lying down beaten on the ground, you recognize the threat, or lackthereof, for what it is. This is not Roman Gladiator, this is not the battlefield in a war and this is not the exercise yard of prison. This is our society. And if you, as a man, have no way of handling two unarmed woman who are being aggressive towards you, without viciously mauling them with a deadly weapon; well you have no place in this society.

Yeah, the two customers got exactly what they deserved. You hop the counter and all bets are off.

But fear not for those who think that the employee went overboard. I expect McDonalds will be forking out large sums of money to the two ladies.

BTW, I wonder if the $50 was forged…?