Excellent story. Lots of fun and it still had me on the edge of my seat.
I hope the Tardis is really bigger on the inside. Amy and Rory are going to need a honeymoon suite. After waiting a thousand years he’s more than ready.
Excellent story. Lots of fun and it still had me on the edge of my seat.
I hope the Tardis is really bigger on the inside. Amy and Rory are going to need a honeymoon suite. After waiting a thousand years he’s more than ready.
i) There’s no particular reason to think so, though this may turn out to be partly the case. Doctor Who continuity is slippery at the best of times, since time can be rewritten, and just because something happened for the Doctor it doesn’t mean it happened for anyone else (and vice versa, so on and etcetera). The most likely outcome is that everything will be as it was, except for those elements that prove to be inconvenient for future stories, which will turn out to have been changed, or not, by this or by something else, at some point in the future – or possibly the past. Moving on…
ii) Your daughter’s almost certainly right – I find they have an almost infallible instinct in these matters. The only exception would be if the chips and fish fingers had been incorporated into a sandwich prior to the appearance of the Daleks. In that case they can be safely taken to The Place of Hiding, and consumed there. Once the Daleks have appeared, anyone hanging about to make butties will be exterminated –illustrating clearly the enormous importance of planning Saturday teatime properly.
As a child of 60s, it’s heartening to see a new generation of children observing and enforcing The Rules of Watching Doctor Who just as we did.
In particular, the strong need for Amy to remember Rory after he got time-cracked at the end of the angels episodes. But there were other references throughout the season about the importance of remembering.
I saw it coming from a mile away, and I’m terrible at predicting shows, so it has to have been pretty clearly telegraphed or I’d have never have guessed it ![]()
Yes, it is.
I was expecting this episode to tear my heart out and smash it with a hammer, considering my previous experience with Doctor Who finales. Very pleased to get a happy ending for once.
I really like Rory, and I was sure he wouldn’t make it through the series (especially considering events in previous episodes) - very glad to be wrong.
Well, that’s how they saved the day in the Dalek episode. That was the turning point in the space whale episode. The Doctor said it multiple times to Amy about Rory.
She hides on occasion from The Clangers too ![]()
I have gone all flaily and incoherent. I think that was absolutely the best possible way this series (season) could have ended.
I love River Song and her almost-ambiguous relationship to the Doctor. I love Amelia Pond. I love Rory and his robot hand, and I love him waiting 2000 years. I’m so happy that Amy realized she really did love Rory and want to marry him with all her heart and that they did get married. I also think it was very generous of Moffat not to put their vows in, so we can imagine them. I love seeing all three of them in the TARDIS about to embark on new adventures!
Absolutely. The wife found the balloons at the wedding to be really weird though.
I totally thought Rory was going in the box and getting wiped to save the universe. It’s nice to see that occasionally the Whoverse can have a truly happy ending.
So…maybe silly, but was Daddy DeVito (somehow I knew he was short before I ever saw how tall he was…) the Roman general?
Otherwise, fantastic episode. I thought it was funny that at the wedding we got to see Rory’s greatest fear: That Amy would realize that she’s way out of his league.
ETA: So, is Rory going to be a full-on credits guy next season?
-Joe, Time to say Goodbye
Okay. Great episode. But nits to pick.
In particular I don’t get how River was remembering the Doctor and knew give Amy her blank Tardis shaped diary (that shouldn’t then be) and to be there. Okay, I can get that her not having Amy’s special crack-addled brain meant that her remembering wouldn’t make the imaginary friend appear, but still, he had never existed for her at that point.
And why did the crack make Amy’s parent’s not exist? And how does this fit with her not having lived through the invasion of the Daleks?
Happy to have many other questions to be explained later, what was controlling the Tardis, why did it explode, who and what really is River Song … and so on. But these ones should be answered now.
And what about the duckless duck pond?!?
I loved it!
I was surprised at how many unresolved things are possibly left for next year. Or maybe not. It depends on where Moffet wants to take the stories.
Leadworth - creepy village, center of the crack I got a hunch we’ll see Leadworth often next year.
River Song - some sort of villain next year? River warned the Doctor things will be different. I think we’ll see a redemption story arc. A younger River meets the Doctor and she’s dangerous. Eventually he changes her and she becomes the River we meet in The Library. It may take several stories to resolve this.
the voice - who spoke to the Tardis? Is he responsible for its destruction? I imagine we’ll find out next year.
The Dalek and other aliens alliance. Are they done plotting against the Doctor?
My interpretation was that the end of the story meant that the cracks wouldn’t appear in the universe after the events of “The Big Bang” because the Doctor’s unspooling towards the end means they wouldn’t be formed in the first place. SO the baddies would have no reason to ally – the explosion that destroys the universe isn’t going to happen now.
That, and even if they did ally in the first place, I think it’s a safe bet that the alliance would fall apart with lots of finger pointing.
-Joe
Have we speculated on whether River is an older Amy, or descendant of Amy? Amy having River’s pre-filled journal makes me go hmmmmm.
Didn’t the Doctor have a daughter who took off adventuring? Maybe River is a descendant of hers.
Okay, there are lots of plot threads hanging that may or may not be resolved next season, but the big one for me that should have been resolved in the finale is…
How did the Doctor get out of the Pandoricum?
Yes, I know that a future version of the Doctor gave Rory his sonic screwdriver to open the box and release him, but that same future Doctor would still have been imprisoned without Rory’s intervention…
Is this just a hand-wavey timey-wimey paradox, or am I missing something obvious?
I’d go for the first one - it’s a time travel paradox thing.
American here. Although the most recent one I’ve seen is with Van Gogh, I’ve read this thread, been reading spoilers for what was upcoming UK episodes, and have read the plot summaries on the Dr. Who Wiki.
One thing I’m curious about is why most people are speculating that the one who caused all the events and whose voice was in the TARDIS saying “Silence will fall.” is OMEGA. While that’s a possibility, if we’re going with a classic enemy, wouldn’t it be more likely that the Black Guardian is behind all this? Of course there’s the possibility that it’s not a classic villain at all, but if it is, are there any clues or anything that are making people think that it’s OMEGA?
Actually, she said “Everything changes” (or maybe “Everything will change”), which is remarkably close to Torchwood’s “The 21st century is when everything changes”.
-Joe
Just a quick note to say I’d encourage folks to check youtube in a day or two for Matt Smith performing the Dr Who theme with Orbital at Glastonbury this weekend - I absolutely promise you your head will never be the same again. Just utterly stunning