Not sure about Obi Wan, but Alec Guinness was.
I thuoght he was married? Could be wrong though.
Revenge. After Rassilon stated that the Master was “diseased … albeit by our doing” he recognized how he had been used … tortured … since looking into the vortex by Rassilon’s machinations his whole life. And if he has some clever plan to return - and of course he does - he is back to wanting at least one other time lord around, even as an enemy. He could only kill the Doctor once he knew there would be others again, remember?
The whole “Time Lock”, is typical of RTDs stories, you can’t get back to that point unless we need you to e.g. Dalek Caan.
If the Time Lords created the time lock, then they should have been able to unlock it anyway and similarly if the Doctor put it in place. The Daleks didn’t do it as far as we know.
For me this whole concept was fundamentally silly, surely the whole point of a “time war” is the problem that battles will be re-fought over and over as each side attempts to change the past.
This idea was used far better in “The Book of the War” a spin off by Lawrence Miles, loosely based upon events in Doctor Who.
I like the idea of the mystery of the time war, but things like the time lock cheapen the whole thing. Plus if the Daleks can come back umpteen times, why not the Time Lords?
What I really want to see, but am unlikely to is the regeneration of the 8th Doctor into the 9th.
Vinvocci glass, made by the “cactus people” that made the gate. The Vinvocci are tall and green as opposed to the Zocci who are short and red (I assume that’s a reference to Bannakaffalatta from Voyage of the Damned).
Really? IME a lock will typically open just fine from one side and is impossible from the other. Ever been to a jail? The guys with the keys can open the doors just fine. It doesn’t matter whether or not the guys in the cells are locksmiths.
But The Doctor can’t go back and alter his own past, and I’m betting nobody else can, either. Otherwise, The Master could have just gone back and strangled The Doctor in his crib - but since he’s already tangled with The Doctor it becomes impossible without creating a paradox.
First of all, when they did come back, it was with help from outside the time lock. Let’s see, where did we just see that? Second, the Time lords DID escape the time war - specifically The Doctor, The Master, and eventually all the rest, for at least a little while.
-Joe
Not been to jail, but I think the analogy breaks down as the Time Lords should have the appropriate lock picks/explosives to escape as their technology is better than that of who/what ever put the lock into place. Even if the one way lock is true, then they had the ability to pre-empt it and prevent it being put into place.
I accept that up to a point, but those laws are IMO self imposed by the Time Lords rather than something inherent to the universe. In times of war they could choose to violate those laws in the same way we and the US did with rendition.
Yes they had outside help, but it was something that they created from inside the time lock. They caused the Master to hear the drum beat and they also sent him the diamond to bring them back, thus they were the architects of their own escape. Plus if a mere Dalek could break in and rescue Davros, the time lords could have arranged to have an agent or two in the outside universe to break the lock afterwards.
IIRC the Doctor and the Master were never time locked and both ran away before the time war was time locked.
I don’t mean to sound too negative, this is Doctor Who and is better than anything else on tv at present, but I always find RTDs big endings to be a bit disappointing (no double entendre intended).
Overall these episodes weren’t bad, but they could have been a lot better with a bit more thought.
Very good points though. Now that you mention it, the Clone Wars were much more mysterious and cool in my head. So were the Time Lords frankly. I loves me some Dalton, though.
You assume correctly.
Shameful people though. Did you know cyborgs only very recently received equal rights? It’s terrible the way they’ve been treated. They’re also fat-ist.
I did kinda like that it was revelled that at the end the time war the Time Lords had become a bunch of arrogant, overzealous and overpowerful assholes.
I didn’t much care for it at first, nor for Dalton’s Vader impression. The Time Lords have always been arrogant and overpowerful, but overzealous and assholish are major turnarounds from their former extremely restrained, overly bureaucratic selves. The one thing that somewhat saved it for me was one word: Rassilon. If he is somehow back and in charge of the Time Lords, some *very bad shit *must have gone down during the Time War.
Yeah. But Dalton could probably emote that if they had him naked. I guess I was hoping for a more up to date imagining than a bunch of old farts standing around in Dune apparel. 
The Time Lords really should have been much cooler than the Doctor. That makes for the best villains, IMHO. The Master was cool this time. He uses his Time Lord powers like a real man, what with those energy blasts and flying.
I really have to question weather it’s THE Rassilon or not. In “The Five Doctors” he was shown to be very wise and extremely powerful. More powerful than Timothy Dalton was shown to be. In my opinion anyway.
I don’t think those were Time Lord powers. Those seemed to be powers he gained from his resurrection.
Yes, I’m pretty sure it was meant to be THE Rassilon. I think the point the Doctor made was that the Time War fucked things up for a lot of people, and I’m sure that was no different for Rassilon too.
That is a question; I think it would be stupid to just throw out the name Rassilon and not have it be “the” Rassilon, but I also consider Davies a pretty sloppy writer, so it wouldn’t surprise me. Wise and powerful, sure, but even good guys can go bad and he’s got the whole corporeal thing now to deal with. The Glove of Doom seemed to be serving him nicely up until the Master whipped out his newly acquired superpowers.
But, really, I think Davies, and thus the new series, has only been interested in previous Doctor history when it served his needs and tossed it aside when it didn’t suit him (e.g. origin of Cybermen). I’m not sure this mention of Rassilon need have anything to do with what we previously know about Rassilon, but I prefer to fanwank it that way for the moment.
In the original run of the show the seventh Doctor destroyed all of the Cybermen from this universe, so since Davies wanted to re-introduce the Cybermen, I don’t see a problem with getting some new ones from another universe. Although personally, I wish a dead enemy would stay dead, but, whatever.
It could very well be the actual Rassilon. I’ll be a bit disappointed if it is, but I’ll wait and see what happens.
I agree that the Time Lords seemed a bit square and dated, which is why I think it’s so lucky they got Dalton, who added much needed Gravitas to the situation.
If they Time Lords were coming back for an extended duration, I think Davies could have retconned the Dune / South American look away a bit, but since it was such a short appearance, he really had to use that look to make the whole thing “read.”
Davies has, I think, been pretty good at not stepping on the toes of the original series. The revived series does a lot of things differently, but (as far as I’m aware) it’s pretty rare that he’s directly contradicted major elements of the original.
I think Rassilon was definitely THE Rassilon. Differences could be accounted for by regeneration, the years of all-out war, and the weakening of Time Lord society in general. I don’t think there’s any reason to assume it’s a different BEING just because his personality seemed radically different.
I’d still like to see other renegade Time Lords around. The vast emptiness of white the Doctor encountered during the original run could protect any numer of 'em from the War.
Gosh, I hope not. That’s going to get tiresome quick. I’ve never cared much for catch phrases.