IIRC, pluto is a male dog and I’m pretty sure Mickey had him fixed.
Oh great. The electron abusers are here.
So you’re saying there would only be boook in which everybody was Irish?
That would be “books”, before any evildoer makes jokes about Celyns who can’t type.
What’s wrong with you is that you’re in denial.
Men and women are different, and it’s not just in the plumbing. Our brains are actually physically different (the obvious example is the disparity in size of the corpus collosum) and multiple studies have shown that we use different parts of our brains in dealing with given situations. There’s no value judgement to be made here, but you do have to recognize the differences in the hardwiring.
Just smugly saying “we’re all the same species” ignores the fact that we are two different genders, and that in the real world that has consequences.
Just writing those differences off as “conversational strategies” is unbelievably fucking stupid, and you’re better than that.
Damn you! I was just thinking of something witty to say about the two Irishmen Pat and Kelly! Damn you!
And you can’t spell either!
I expect this to happen with my current novel. I have an important secondary character who is a lesbian television actress. Sometimes she acts irrationally or even dumb, not because she’s gay, but because she’s that particular person. Even though I set my books in the future, made gay marriage legal, and made it rather obvious that most people couldn’t care less about someone’s orientation, someone will get offended that the character and her wife have a huge fight, and make the assumption that I think all gay people are irrational.
And I would like to now put out to pasture for perpetuity the phrase, “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”
I’m not gay, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I’m not much of a dog person, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
I prefer dark chocolate over milk chocolate, not that there’s anything wrong with that.
It’s an annoying phrase on par with, “Some of my best friends are .”
Wee!
They’re not Republican yet.
That only happens after they get their eyes open.
Regards,
Shodan
Thank you, Shodan. That made my day.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean by “antique ideas,” but as the first part of your sentence, it led to a few giggles and a belly laugh or two, enjoyed by a group of people having some harmless fun, and few things in life are better than that, IMO.
And if we want to talk about sterotypes and their role in humor, let’s point out that some of the jokes in Decoding woman-speak were based on women making a huge deal over what seems to be nothing. Giggles abound, world continues revolving. And then a couple of people come into the thread and make a huge deal over nothing!
I mean, the thread was never meant to be an in-depth analysis of how people think, but if it were a GD thread, I think the argument becomes, “see?” It’d be like if Michael Moore held a press conference and said, “I hate America, fuck you all.” Proper response from Democrats: “Hrm, I guess he does hate America.” Wrong response: “No he doesn’t! No he doesn’t! La la la la la! No he doesn’t!”
I’m not saying that political correctness doesn’t have its place. I, for one, am happy to know the origins of the phrase “getting gypped,” to which I owe this board. But a band of middle Asian people from several hundred years ago doesn’t have the visibility of women.
It’s good to have people like you, *matt_mcl, who are ready to defend against mistreatment of women without even being one yourself, but this particular instance is a battle that doesn’t need to be fought. There is no ignorance here. One can mention and extract humor from stereotypes without being ignorant of how the world really is. Sure, a few people will get offended, but that will be the case with everything, everywhere. My mom hated Seinfeld because Jerry had a different girlfriend every week. Should she have started a crusade, and ran around every Thursday night handing out safe sex pamphlets to peopel watching the show? No, she realized that most people have the sense to realize that Jerry is not a role model, and just chose not to watch it herself.
Hands up whoever is been with the same woman for more than 16 years?
Woman-speak exists, my wife and I joke about it all the time. She will make some cryptic remark, lay another landmine and when I call her on it, she laughs and tries to straighten me out. I can assume that in relationships that are less open or more antagonistic than the one I am in this difference in language use could become a substantial problem. Same species or no.
:smack:
(Well, that’s the best smilie available for the request. 
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Holy shit. I’m having Dish Network installed right now and I can’t stop giggling. My installer thinks I’m nuts!
E.
In Chefguy’s Goddamn Chinese-made CRAP!, I found this earned a nomination for a Retort of the Day award:
(Paraphrasing) Chefguy: I bought a pair of special order shoes, made in China, and they’re 2 different sizes, Goddamn Chinese-made CRAP!
To me, that reply was more priceless than any Mastercard commercial I’ve ever seen.
See, I considered that, and then it occurred to me that (surprise!) I hang out with women. I even speak to them occasionally. And the women I know do not behave in the ways listed in the thread, and a lot of the men I know do.
So if in my experience, these things aren’t split by gender, and people admit as much, the thing that puzzles me is why they seem so prepared to insist that there is a “womanspeak” and a “manspeak” anyway. It’s not a concept I’ve ever found helpful, and it has a lot of unfortunate implications.
a) Well, obviously I don’t think it’s nothing, and neither do the other people who joined the thread. Perhaps that is some insight into the stereotype you mention.
b) And look at this: you are attempting to defend the stereotype that “women make a big deal over nothing” by pointing to me, who am not a woman. You even bring this fact up. Why divide things up by gender that don’t divide up by gender?
I know. I do it frequently. I just don’t think that that was what was going on in the thread.
For example, there’s now a thread “Decoding gayspeak.” And we’ll see how that goes; I might even participate. But nobody (I trust) is going to defend it by trying to show that these stereotypes are reality. The reason the critique of these threads even began is that people, in our experience, do not treat these “menspeak” and “womenspeak” things as stereotype-mockery. They treat them as mockery of men or women, respectively.
Seriously dude, it’s a joke. Coming in here and attempting to explain why you think it’s not a joke is stupid because it was meant to be a joke.
The actual differences between men and women have nothing to do with anything becuase the threads were jokes.
Just lighten up and move on.
FTR, in matt_mcl’s latest post, the last two quote are from me, not Exgineer.
But this is the thing: half the people are defending it by claiming that it’s just a joke and it’s not serious, and the other half are defending it by claiming “but women actually DO speak like that!”
You’re either satirizing a stereotype, or you’re satirizing people on the basis of their gender. I know which one I saw in the thread.
Yes. Sorry about that.