Then in either case it’s satire and you’re still the wonk without a sense of humor (or humour depending on preference).
Except that satirizing the other gender is sexist, much as satirizing other races is racist, and satirizing other sexual orientations is homo/hetero/biphobic. Certainly it’s one of the milder forms of these kinds of prejudice, but I still find it objectionable.
(I also note, in passing, that a lot of the “manspeak” entries seemed to be just as meanspirited against women as some of the “womanspeak” entries.)
Every joke can have negative implications if you let it. So in order to keep everyone from each other’s throats, we, as a society, have pretty much accepted that every one of us will, at some point, say something that can be construed as offensive, but that they don’t all need to be pointed out.
Based on the how the thread was going before it was criticized, and on the fact that very few people seem to actually be offended/concerned by it since, I’m not ready to concede that the thread is anything anyone needs to worry about.
The thread was a joke thread, based on stereotypes. Once it was criticized and a rational discussion broke out, the jokes and sterotypes must be abandoned. I laughed at the thread, but when it gets down to it, if a guy actually thinks this is how women are, they should get the smackdown. Some people- men, women- and anywhere in between- act like this, some don’t. Obviously, enough women make a big deal over nothing that people recognize the correlation.
Does that mean all women do? No. Does it mean no men do? No. Does it mean that men can’t? No. Does it necessarily mean anything of import? No. Do we know all this? Yes. Do we need to say it every time we make the joke? Depending on the audience, no.
Well, I have to say, I do. If you can point out what you think crosses the line, please do. I may have said, “That goes too far” while reading it, and just forgot, but I didn’t think the thread as a whole was desrving of criticism.
I already saw something that I think could be genuinely offensive to people in the closet, but since I know this board is pretty open-minded, and we generally understand* the difficulty of being in the closet, I think it goes without saying that no one means any harm.
*-Understand as much as as someone who’s never been there, that is.
Again, I simply disagree.
I don’t agree with this at all. I suppose that self depricating humor means that you’re self-loathing?
They’re generalizations, sometimes based on anecdotal evidence, sometimes not. If you can come up with some good jokes based on how deep down we’re all the same, please add them.
I’m having a little trouble wrapping my head around this one. I can obviously see that a thread about ‘Decoding (some race) speech’ would be wrong and hurtful to many, but this sort of humor crosses all those race lines. It’s not an ‘us against them’ mentality that made me laugh at the other thread, it’s a ‘yeah, sometimes people are kinda dumb when it comes to talking to each other’ kind of laugh.
I agree that it’s great that both genders are working together to bring about equality, but in this case I think the effort is a bit misplaced. In reading the woman-speak thread, I got a few chuckles out of many posts, and there were a few that I thought went a bit too far. However, at the time I just assumed that poster had just gone through (or was still in) a pretty bad relationship, and was really just posting about events that had happened with a current or former SO. People go through bad times, and sometimes the best thing to do is try to get a laugh out of a bad situation.
Hey, as a person named one of those names, I object. Wait, no, I don’t. Carry on.
Yeah, pretty soon all you have left to satirize are religious Republicans. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, some of my friends are religious Republicans.
Oh-I am so glad you said “nearly” in your post, because I have to be definite here and take a position, which I am uncomfortable doing, since I have this strong need to be liked by everyone I come in contact with, either in real life or on the Web, not that you folks here aren’t as important or significant in my life as those folks who are in my real life–I mean walking and talking real life, not the people I just see at the grocery store and at the oil change place, although I am* sure* that if I were to really get to know those people, that their opinion of me would matter as much as yours does–but as you can see, I am going to have to say that yes, NEARLY everything you say these days does need a qualifier of some kind…but like I was saying, I am so glad you put “nearly” though…I didn’t want to say yes for everytime–that would be too much and too strong of a statement…what was the question again?
My god man does comedy exist in your world? If so what exactly is satirized?
At least we’ll always have Paris
and Ann
and Dick & George
and The Pope
and Fundies
You are going to live a very sad little life if you spend your time trying to find prejudice in everything. Do you ever laugh?
In the interest of de-fusing any humor that may be objectionable to any group or party, I propose that henceforth all jokes, ridicule, sly asides, snarky generalizations, etc., shall be edited, adjusted, and/or rewritten to have as their subject, instead of the intended group or party, the name Icarus. That’s right, I volunteer.
For example:
Instead of gender jokes, make Icarus jokes. “Icarus always leaves the toilet seat up, what’s up with that?” or “Why does Icarus always put a basket of seashells on the back of the toilet, what’s up with that?.”
Instead of racial jokes, make Icarus jokes. “How many Icaruses does it take to screw in a lightbulb?”
You get the picture. I believe this change will satisfy any possible objections that could arise from any attempt at humor that would otherwise be directed at a gender, race, group, party, individual, animal, vegatable, mineral, wood or plastic product, organic or manmade substance, concrete object or fleeting concept.
I accept the burden of being the subject of all future humor, it’s the least I can do. :rolleyes:
Icarus, my cousin Icarus thinks you’re a douche.
So this Icarus walks into a bar with an Icarus on his shoulder…
That was no Icarus - that was my Icarus! …
Icarus went to a brothel for the first time…
No, sorry, something’s lacking. It was a very generous offer though.
My heart bleeds for those who suffer from the heartbreak of a lack of a sense of humor.
On another board, I have had to put a disclaimer:
WARNING: This post contains sarcarcasm
- all because the humor-challenged were so overly sensitive.
It takes all the fun out of interacting online.
None. Every time he gets close to the lightbulb, his wings melt and he falls into the sea and drowns.
Icarus, a priest, and a rabbi walk into a bar. The bartender says, “Is this some kind of joke?”
Icarus is flying over the city. He looks down, sees Wonder Women lying on her back, naked. Icarus swoops down, screws Wonder Woman, and flies away.
“Who the hell was that?”, asks Wonder Woman.
“I don’t know, but my ass is killing me!”, says the Invisible Man.
/rimshot
Regards,
Shodan
Sorry, but on behalf of all Catholics and Jews I find that offensive. And I’m sure we could find someone somewhere who was a bartender once who would be offended at the idea of bartender stereotyping. Maybe if you said it like this:
So an Icarus, an Icarus, and an Icarus all walk into a bar. The Icarus behind the bar says, “What is this, some kind of unfunny, politically correct joke?”
I’m offended that an alcholic Irishman, a dumb blonde, and a person of Polish descent were not included in this joke.
I think he’s got it!
Shodan, let’s move your desk next to Lord Ashtar, he can help you on your assignments.
…So Icarus says, “Twenty bucks, same as in town.”
Sorry, I just can’t feel it.
Regards,
Shodan