Hahahaha. Thanks for adding your 2 centime worth of no information about ACA/Obamacare. I think it’s apparent that most people in this country don’t know what to expect when ACA/Obamacare finally goes into effect. Many aren’t even aware that ACA and Obamacare are the same thing??? That seems like a major hurdle. A major hurdle that the Obama nation of administrators and supporters should be trying to overcome. Or not.
If you were selling Bugatti’s or Moulinex appliances, I suspect that you would make sure that your potential customers understood exactly what it was they were recieving for their Euros. That simple rule doesn’t seem to apply to ACA/Obamacare. Pass the bill so you’ll know what’s in it??? Spend years writing and rewriting the regulations while expecting the taxpaying voters to continue to simply believe that ACA/Obamacare is good for them? And it should/might/maybe be cheaper too! Verbally attacking anyone who questions your failure to provide information about what a Bugatti, Moulinex, or ACA/Obamacare will actually cost or what it specifically does, isn’t going to make you many sales.
How can you hate something so much that you evidently know virtually nothing about. Especially when the entire thing has been available to the public for reading for years. Its almost like you don’t actually want to know the reality of what it does. Maybe ignorance makes it easier to stay angry, I don’t know. I thought ignorance was bliss, but not when it comes to the ACA I guess.
I blame the people who created ACA/Obamacare and who have failed to provide adequate explaination of the who, what, why, and wherefores of this very complicated system for the failure of people to understand what they are being asked to support. When a politician says, “Trust me”, that’s a pretty good time to ask a whole lot of questions. Unless you object to people asking questions.
Maybe when the signup system eventually(?) works, people will have a better understanding what they are getting and what it will cost. Vague generalities about why ACA/Obamacare is good for you isn’t very convincing except to the choir.
To repeat my earlier query back in post #48, which you don’t seem to have addressed:
And by the way, just to put this in perspective: What’s your opinion on homebuyers during the subprime mortgage boom of the previous decade who took out mortgages on houses they couldn’t really afford? Was their predicament the fault of the Bush Administration government for not making sure they had full information about subprime mortgage risks and lending practices? Or was it their own responsibility to put in some effort to find out the necessary information that pertained to their case?
It’s becoming clear to me that in this case the problem here is not that the administration is being secretive or uncommunicative; it’s that you haven’t attempted to find out what is going on. The law is already in effect. Different provisions have been going into effect since the law was signed in 2010. What you’re thinking of is the individual mandate, which goes into effect January 1.
Take it up with the people who decided they wanted to call it Obamacare.
Are you ever going to acknowledge that people opposed to the law have spent years misleading people about what the law says and have told a lot of ridiculous lies about it? Somehow you’re putting that entirely on Obama. Or maybe you think like Homer Simpson:
I already explained what this means. If you want to complain and complain without dealing with the facts, please have the decency to say so.
If you actually “know the reality of what it does” is, then you should have no problems explaining the specifics to the masses. Many people still seem to be confused about what it is, what it does, and what it costs.
On the other hand, if you don’t know the specifics, why are you attacking people for simply asking questions? If more people understood ACA/Obamacare as well as you do, there could be little opposition to it.
As I said above, no one is saying trust me. When people had incredibly specific and complicated questions on the radio, they got answers.
Now, I agree that it would all be a lot easier if we had a simple single payer plan, where every American would be able to go to the doctor, show a card, get treated, and not have to worry any more. If you are for such a plan then we agree. The mess we have comes in large part from not trying to change our broken system too much and uselessly trying to compromise with Republicans.
Get this through your head. The signup system is working fine in California and New York, at least. The parts of the federal system the state systems have to connect with are working fine also. People can - and plenty have - gone on the system to see what their options are. You refusing to believe this does not make it untrue, so cut the crap already.
This really only affects large employers as I recall. Running a large business involves wrangling a lot of interrelated variables. Staffing is just one. Variables related to staffing, are morale, engagement, compensation package (further reduced to salary, retirement options, stock options, and health benefits), availability of qualified candidates in the labor pool, etc. In short, if one employer thinks taking measures to skirt providing medical insurance is a grand idea, a competetor will leap on that and offer medical insurance in order to compete for the best employees. Happy & healthy employees do better work, and that comes back to the business owner. A business that can’t grasp the fact it lives or dies at the whim of its employees deserves to fail.
But that doesn’t break down into a soundbyte very well.
If you actually have questions, why not look up one of the many people trained to answer the questions. I bet there are lots of things you don’t know - that does not mean no one knows the answer to these questions.
Okay, my repeated references to exactly the sort of information you claim to be seeking appear to be going over your head. Falling back on words of one syllable, magnified for easy reading comprehension:
Not in the least. Should I assume that you are maintaining a hypocritical double standard in which you whine about the government not doing enough to inform consumers about Democratic-administration policies but expect consumers to take responsibility for informing themselves about Republican-administration policies?
If the OP has questions, he can ask them himself. People are trying to deal with those. You, on the other hand, haven’t raised any questions. I won’t speak for Kimstu but I’m certainly getting tired of it. You keep saying things like “they won’t tell anybody what’s in the law!” and “nobody knows what’s in the law!” and that’s just not true. I think it’s time you put your cards on the table.