no u
Might help if you stated your point in clear, logical, concise language going from point A to point B instead of cryptic half-comments that people have to guess at…
mr. mental giant …
…" pivot point " was reference to point in time that he needs big positive change in polls for him to be elected.
not how Trump campaigns. duh !
The first debate is currently scheduled for September 26; by that point, early voting will already be underway in several states (Minnesota, e.g., starts Sept. 23) and among military/overseas voters. If Mr. Trumps waits to start his pivot at or after the first debate (assuming he’s going to pivot at all), that’s a wee bit late.
Huh? If I’m understanding your complaint, you’ve completely misread that graph. It seems you think the data shows the polling data 60 days before the election. It doesn’t. It shows the polling data 60 days after the second convention. The fact that the graph doesn’t go up to 100 days is completely irrelevant to the conclusion that, on average, polls have a significantly higher predictive value 14 days after the second convention compared to polls taken before the first convention (the negative numbers on the graph in the Vox article).
A distinction with no difference. Polls will not change since Trump will not behave more presidential or reasonable to gain the support of more of the people outside the Republican group (now more irresponsible nowadays if not prejudiced). Trump therefore will keep digging and spewing nonsense right through the debates too. So, less support to Trump will come from moderate Republicans, independents, and as seen in the polls, the Democrats.
like these ??
you’re just another critic w/ no evidence.
attack the messenger is your only rebut.
maybe—maybe not.
Really? Funny how I don’t see any cites from you. Nor much of a point. But go on, continue with the passive-aggressive attempted insults, as if anyone but you doesn’t see what they are.
Or, maybe, just MAYBE, STATE YOUR BLEEDING POINT!
see how easy this can be ?
you don’t think polls will change after 1st debate.
i do.
all that other crap in post is irrelevant.
Will not, as per what Trump said. He is what he is. (He may be channeling Popeye)
This makes not much sense as per your own words it is easy to clarify. Again, there is no reason for the polls to pivot as Trump will not do it either.
my post points are about as brief and concise as any on here.
maybe it’s comprehension that’s lacking ?
so now i need " cites " to post my opinion ?
I vacillate between your explanation and mine. Either way, the intensity with which he is pursuing the complete annihilation of the Republican Party is truly scary to me. Not that they didn’t deserve it, but he’s tearing up the very fabric of of how our governance works in the process, undermining the entire system. I’m all for meaningful – even drastic – reform. But I thought he was against nation-building. :dubious:
His fondness for conspiracy theories should be of surprise to no one, if they were paying any attention. That’s what just sends me into a tilt. How do so many people who manage to function reasonably well every day just ignore the fact that the person they’re planning to vote for to be their next president is an anti-vaxxer/climate-change-denier/birther?? For me, that disqualified him on his (weird orange) face. I’m aware of the Dunning-Kruger Effect, but… yikes.
it’s a shame that media has you all bent outa shape w/ this " pivot " word .
carry on.
john L is not understanding that posters have responded exactly to his obtusely stated belief that the debate will somehow potentially be a … let’s call it “positive inflection point” for Trump.
Historically the debates have only impacted races outcomes that were close going into the debate. Which does not mean that it is impossible for Trump to so impress during the debates that he turns a consistent negative 5 to 7ish around … just that nothing like that has ever happened before and given that Trump is promising more of the same as he has delivered to date (no “pivot”) expecting the same to deliver dramatically different and historically unprecedented results is … well … an improbable thing to expect. It is an opinion that goes against the available evidence.
But it could happen, not impossible.
The question john L is what underlies your thought that polls will significantly change in Trump’s favor after the first debate?
The posters who believe they won’t have been clear as to why they think that - Gallup’s review of the impact of past debates, the fact that a poll deficit still that large six weeks before election day has in the past been pretty dang sticky, and that Trump promises more of what has resulted in his current polling rather than any altering of his course now or during the debate.
And just for the record … indeed your examples of your posts are what people are complaining about. Perhaps they make sense in the context of a conversation of other things you have said in your mind or allusions that you know you are referencing … but to others reading them they are at best cryptic shorthand drivebys of unclear meaning. The code you post in is not one that others here can decode. Humor our lack of ability to comprehend your plain spoken posts and try posting in language that we poor uneducated miscreants can understand please. Thank you.
You could experiment with that mysterious Shift key on your keyboard. You can use it to make the first letter of your sentences or any other letters YUUGE.
what a shame.
wasted all those words on a false premise. as noted in bold above.
carry on.
another comprehension case here ? :rolleyes:
You guys, I think e e cummings is trying to communicate with us in haiku.
Well, john l, your premise was clearly stated in your earlier post:
[QUOTE=john L]
see how easy this can be ?
you don’t think polls will change after 1st debate.
i do.
[/QUOTE]
So you DO think that the polls will change after the 1st debate. You said so.
I would like to ask then: as you clearly stated, as quoted above, what underlies your thought that polls will significantly change in Trump’s favor after the first debate?