“To be determined” “I don’t know” and with the latest flip flop to his dwindling Hispanic supporters the base of Trump is beginning to grumble.
Yep, the troglodytes are beginning to wonder now if Trump is pulling a fast one on them.
I mean, most Americans already knew that what Trump promised about immigration was stupid already but it will be much, much harder for the nativists and anti-immigration crowd that helped Trump win the nomination to keep quiet.
And sure enough:
Too late anyhow, even Romney softened his position and ran to the middle earlier than Trump seems* to be doing at this time in his campaign. Did not fool most Americans.
*Seems, because with Trump one should expect a flip flop of the flip flop in subsequent speeches or interviews. And until his personnel changes or buddies like Arpaio are repudiated, Trump is offering just empty rhetoric.
I don’t think there are any edges. His support is pure, distilled, 110 proof, homogenous crazy. Most of them believe he will deport 11 million illegal immigrants and build a 30 foot concrete wall across the entire southern border. If he back tracks on that, he is going to lose most of his rabble. Combine that with his regret for his politically incorrect diatribes, and they are going to stay home in disgust.
Well, I hope you’re not wrong. As the saying goes, sunlight is an excellent disinfectant. By all means, let the anti-Obama contingent show us once again how ugly they can be.
How is that quote you posted “and sure enough”? It just says some hardliners will be mad, while saying a softer stance probably wouldn’t alienate everyone in the “tough on illegal immigrants” crowd. It doesn’t report what you’re expecting is happening - it’s an analysis piece that only partially agrees with you.
Thing is that the racist supporters were just enough to allow a victory for Trump under some scenarios and polls, and since we are speaking of Trump he will fool even less than Romney did with his “softening”. Leading IMHO to a less enthusiastic base of voters of Trump to not show up at the polls.
And in reality it will make many moderates and independents to vote for Clinton that already has a party that supports just a bit more than what El Trompo is telling us that he will do now regarding immigration.
Of course, it would be easier for Trump’s followers do a very fast denial about that softening.
I have to add that as I observe a lot about of how news sources behave we have here the situation where the right wing info sphere will report on the denial of the softening, while the mainstream media will continue (they need that horse race by hook or by crock) to talk about the pivot.
It will fool many, but not enough IMHO to win the election.
You seem to do this a lot, GIGO. I made a pretty specific criticism of your post and you respond with a bit of a non-sequitur. I wasn’t talking about how well this softening of position will work, I was saying that your guesswork hasn’t been borne out and your linked article actually contradicts your estimations of Trump followers. For example, it links to a Daily Beast article which begins:
What is funny is that I did point to that article also because of it linking to that.
What I was thinking is about the close margin of victory for Trump that the polls showed just a month ago. That half of supporters is crucial in the best scenarios where Trump could win.
It is because of them that is is crucial to deny that any softening took place, but it will be then mostly coming from the right wing info sphere, unfortunately (for the far right) I do not think that it will fool enough to convince many of that racist half to enthusiastically support or show up when the election comes.
Well if that was your thinking, I sure didn’t get it from the post I responded to. BTW, those two quoted tweets in your TownHall article are clearly #NeverTrumpists, not disillusioned Trump supporters. Kind of silly that they were included, imho.
The tweets point not to the “softening” but how others are seeing this, as a scam.
AFAIK what the plan actually contains is supposed to be revealed in detail in a few days, seems like the amnesty is a trial balloon that will go down like a leaded one. But I do think that we will see is what I pointed before, the idea was to plant a “softening” message of Trump in the MSM. Like puppies, they are complying.
He was just saying, just like I did. And many times in the past I pointed at important sectors of the right wing media not supporting Trump as one important factor of why many of those Trump supporters will not be able to avoid messages like that one. (I also made the point before that a very significant number of moderate Republicans and Independents reject Trump, for them this bit of news is significant and a point I also make regarding the election).
Breitbart will try as hell to follow one narrative, but a good number will learn anyhow about the two faces of Trump.
You’re talking about a predicted 40% of eligible voters. You really think most of them are that crazy, and not just so stupid they hear only what they want to hear when Trump speaks?