“enslavement” and “encampment”, if you’re inclined to use such hyperbolic terms, are exactly what we do with criminals of every stripe that we catch: rape someone, lock 'em up in prison, take away (a bunch of) their rights, etc. Kill someone, ditto, sell drugs, ditto, bank fraud, ditto, tax evasion, ditto. Why is it Hitler-esque with illegal immigrants, but not so with drug dealers or child pornographers? The War on Drugs has left the 4th Amendment an empty shell of what it once was. If you’re worried about rights getting eroded, it’s already happened, and it’s got nothing to do with Trump’s push to deport illegals.
And they’re probably being recorded, and archived. 
Would your objection be muted if the distinction were based on country of origin and not religion?
That’s why it’s “under my breath” :mad:
Oh, they’ve got the tech to catch the under-the-breath stuff.
Stormtroopers. Armed forces, kicking in doors of peoples houses. Families, ripped apart on city streets. People in hiding. Paying for informants. The entire mechanism needed to locate and find these people require the heavy use of arms, and the mechanism needed to punish Americans who are protecting their friends and family members also requires the heavy use of arms.
This is to be repeated 12,000,000 times in a neighborhood near you. Does that not look like a heavy use of arms?
Or do you think this is just going to happen peacefully, with 12,000,000 people strolling across the border singing “Kumbaya”? :rolleyes:
The country of origin chosen based on religion. Unless Trump plans to ban immigration from Belgium, that is.
One more - Trump wants to make it easier to sue the press for libel (of him) which would violate the first amendment based on current Supreme Court rulings.
My son-in-law spent some time doing immigration law in LA - no picnic. Deporting a million or two million people in an hour, besides being bullshit, would clearly violate due process rights. Letting police choose who to deport (since they know who the criminals are) also violates due process rights.
12,000,000 people, Catholics, rounded up and encamped in large sprawling complexes in the desert Southwest. In Arizona, New Mexico, Texas.
Cattle cars full of people criss-crossing the country.
A wall being built to keep people out… and, who knows, eventually to keep them in, too?
Laws being changed to make the above illegal.
Attitudes being changed to make the above acceptable.
Arguments being made saying “He doesn’t mean what he’s saying” or “He doesn’t know what he’s saying.”
That is the future of Trump’s America.
It took Germany 3-6 years to do this to 6,000,000 Jews who lived out in the open, in a society without 200,000,000+ guns, 20,000,000,000 bullets.
How else are you going to do this in the timetables he is insisting this be done in? What is the process involved in identifying, locating, rounding up, collecting, and encamping 12,000,000 souls in a few months look like to you?
Honestly, the above needs to be the first question(s) asked Trump in any debate.
Small quibble: the camps will be next to the crops that need picking (the California Central Valley; the Florida citrus fields; the New Jersey cranberry bogs, etc.)
Otherwise: yes, as you say.
It ain’t hyperbole. To round up twelve million residents would require processing centers, and a lot of other highly intrusive measures. These centers would not be death camps, but they would be primitive – would you expect comfort the level of country-club prisons?
The idea is simply too big to be handled with any kind of decent treatment for internees.
It’s the equivalent of evacuating Manhattan… eight times over.
Or the entire population of the state of Ohio.
Maybe I missed it. Did Trump say somewhere that he expects to deport all 12+ million illegals in the first few hours / months of his presidency?
A week? I thought it was an hour?
no no no, it’s apparently 1-2 million per hour, for a total deportation timeline of 6-12 hours
:rolleyes:
He’s going to deport the “criminal illegal immigrants” in the first hour of his presidency.
The quote, from your link, was actually:
“We are going to get rid of the criminals and it’s going to happen within one hour after I take office, we start, okay?”
Trump isn’t always precise with his language, but the inclusion of “we start” seems to suggest that he’ll, you know, START the process within the first hour of his presidency, at least for criminal illegals, not that it will necessary be completed within the first hour.
Ffs. Look,he’s nutso and babbles but you don’t do yourself any favours when you misread him purposely. Your article quotes “We are going to get rid of the criminals and it’s going to happen within one hour after I take office, we start, okay?”
This characterization is highly unfair to landlocked* blue states. Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Colorado, and New Mexico have to join “Jesusland”, but South Carolina hangs with the East Coast? :dubious:
He said “we will begin” to do so in the first hours.
*Actually, the first three I listed are not landlocked but have ports serving huge oceangoing vessels.
Out of curiosity - how do you suppose he intends to find these criminal illegals, given that he’s talking about criminals who didn’t register with the immigration office?
Aren’t all the illegal aliens, criminals, in Trumptopia?