I’d say Teddy Roosevelt didn’t endorse William Howard Taft when he ran against him.
I wouldn’t put too much stock in the Bushes’ refusal to endorse Trump. After all, he knocked their son/brother - the presumptive nominee for some time - completely out of the race, and made him look like a wimp while doing it.
- He can run to Hillary’s left.
- He can largely ignore issues altogether, and run on personality and frustration with DC.
He’s already to Hillary’s left on trade, and you can count on him hanging the last 16 years of foreign policy around Hillary’s neck. I wouldn’t be surprised at all to see him making overtures to Labor, as well as a major play for African-Americans. Also, I expect that he will announce that what he really meant by deporting all 11 million illegals is different from what people thought he meant (or just that he’s changing his mind), and that in fact he supports a path to citizenship.
The idea that Trump’s incoherence, contradictions, and ignorance will be “exposed” in the general election misses that they’ve already been exposed. His appeal is visceral and emotional, not intellectual.
What did Hillary have to do with the Bush foreign policy?
She voted for the Iraq war.
I’m not saying it’s fair or rational; I’m saying it’s what he’ll do.
I think the bigger issue is less “Oooohh… they don’t like him!” and more losing out on valuable surrogates to help them campaign.
The mistake was trusting Bush and Cronies.
OK. Has there ever been a sitting speaker of the Houseof the same party as the nominee who has refused to endorse the nominee?
How cute. Ryan thinks he can tell Trump what to do.
From article, Ryan quoted:
“… This is the party of Lincoln and Reagan and Jack Kemp…”
Check. Check. Huh?
Oh, so that is a get out of jail free card? It was perfectly reasonable to trust Bush and Cheney to not start a war? :rolleyes:
Jeb Bush was behind Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, John Kasich and possibly others when he gave up - he finished sixth in Iowa, beaten, I believe, by the famously nutty Ben Carson. It is not at all accurate to say Trump “knocked” Bush out of the race. Bush was barely in it to begin with, and he was competing with Cruz, Kasich and Rubio to be a contender.
He was hailed “presumptive nominee” when he announced because he was named “Bush” and had money. At no point was he actually the frontrunner.
No but she did not “vote for war.”
Are there any Dopers – any at all – who are eligible to vote in U.S. elections, and who intend to vote for Trump in November?
And Trump has already claimed he wouldn’t have trusted Bush. To repeat: The idea that Trump’s incoherence, contradictions, and ignorance will be “exposed” in the general election misses that they’ve already been exposed. His appeal is visceral and emotional, not intellectual.
No, she just voted to let a hawkish administration decide whether to go to war. It is the weakest of defenses.
Given she was one of 77 Senators who voted for it, it’s the weakest of attacks as well.
I think we just have a different interpretation in mind as to what I meant. Prior to the race beginning I think many people including the Bushes presumed that Jeb would be the nominee. I never meant to suggest he was ever the frontrunner.
BrainGlutton:
Is this going to become a Pauline Kael moment?
Trump’s Hispanic outreach started with him Tweeting out a photo of himself poised over a taco bowl, giving a thumbs up and saying “Happy #CincoDeMayo! The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill. I love Hispanics!”
Clinton is doomed now, no doubt