One thing to never forget, it was pasted in a lot of the media that Trump firing his manager was at last a sign that Trump would cease to frail, the ‘Scotland glad to leave the EU’ fiasco showed how out of his depth Trump really is. It shows again that the problem was Trump all along and unfortunately for the Republicans they can’t fire him now.
Democrats can fix this pretty easily, in one of two ways:
Nominate a more electable candidate with working class cred like Biden
Have Clinton actually address concerns working class white voters have, rather than seeking to just bullshit them well enough to keep them from getting too riled up while she concentrates on better lip service to her base.
The reason the British vote is so important is because this is a more liberal voting base than the US’s. If the Brits can fall victim to Trumpism because Labor fails to address legitimate concerns, then anyone can. The Democrats need to wake up.
Brexit passed because young voters — the same constituency that would have left Sanders out to dry had he been the nominee — didn’t turn out and vote. That’s not so much of a problem for Clinton.
That’s a mother of an assumption. Young voters only really turned out in one election: 2008. There’s no evidence they will be there for Clinton, especially when they didn’t support her in the first place.
Not a stretch for an assumption at all. Bernie supporters are savvy enough to know that staying home on election day would help the hated Trump. They’ll come out and vote for Hillary in droves, especially since Bernie himself will ask them yo.
It may be more of a stretch than you think. I supported Sanders and I will now vote for Clinton in the general but I’m shocked at the number of Sanders supporters who are adamant that they will NEVER vote for Clinton.
They have an exteme hatred for her that seems to be beyond all reason, and anyone who tries to reason with them gets that same vitriol aimed at them in response. They will NOT discuss it logically.
They insist that they will either stay home, write in Sanders, or vote for either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson (???). I haven’t seen any say that they’ll vote for Trump but that’s small comfort.
And lately they’re saying that they don’t care who Sanders asks them to vote for. They say that they won’t vote for her even if he asks them to.
Seriously, talking with them is like talking with religious fundamentalists, anti-vaxers, or conspiracy theorists. They’ve built up an emotional wall and they will not allow it to be breached.
So in order to “fix” things in your opinion, the Dems first need to ignore the candidate the majority of their party vied for, for some one who didn’t even run. (Everyone seems to think doing that would destroy the Republican party, but you think it Rick’s for the Dems. :rolleyes:)
For your second point, I am a working class white man, she is doing just fine addressing my concerns. Not perfect, but better than anyone else that is running.
You are apparently in the minority. Trump is winning the white working class the way Democrats are winning the Latino vote.
It’s still a demographic up for grabs, but if Clinton writes another op-ed where she talks about amnesty but devotes not a single paragraph to actually controlling immigration, then future Democrats will only win office if they can count on turnout by extremely unreliable demographics(Latinos and the young). And as those young voters try to get jobs and find they can’t…
While I recognize that the party voters have made their choices, the public rejects those choices. There should be some kind of acknowledgement of public opinion. Both parties should throw open their conventions and nominate candidates acceptable to the public.