I, too, will start up conversations with people in grocery stores, theater lines, parking lots, etc., especially if something has happened that we both just witnessed, or we are looking for the same type of item, etc. I generally know which people not to approach, but not everyone does.
But I believe that the protocol in a therapy waiting room should be different. People are there because they have difficulty dealing with life issues, or dealing with other people. JET knows he belongs in therapy or he would not continue to go. He has admitted he has problems, and yet people in this thead attack him because of these problems. I don’t think I would have told the woman to fuck off, but I would have definitely done something to try to break engagement.
The motto of this board is fighting ignorance, and I don’t think attacking people with emotional problems, in much the same way those people with emotional problems deal with their own problems, fights ignorance.
Spider Woman (and I hope I can call you ‘Spidey’ or something someday!) I agree (and I hope we all do) that fighting ignorance is the first goal.
But ignorance comes in many forms. Rudeness through lack of thought is one of them, and, I admit, a pet peeve of mine. So many people are just naturally inconsiderate and that can drive me wild.
I stand by my statements above, however. As I’ve mentioned previously on the board, I spent that last 3.5 years of my high school time in therapy, 9 months as an in-patient and the rest of the time as a day-schooler. It happens. I can see a reasoning where, being both in a therapists waiting room, there’s a natural assumption of the possibility of a connection. There’s a natural basis for a conversation in that both JET and the woman are waiting for a therapist. I wouldn’t have pursued it after the first attempt but again, that doesn’t excuse his being rude in response. Even a simple, “please don’t talk to me right now” would have been acceptable.
Nope, I know the world doesn’t revolve around me. You can tell by a few little gestures. I try to remember that other people are just people. I don’t throw temper tantrums when someone dares talk to me. I don’t nurse little delusions of grandeur such as judging 90% of people to be scum.
Anyway, just to keep up with the running wisdom of JET, the list so far:
Ah, it just gets better. Let me just add, I don’t think that you are “scum” - I just think you’re a dull, pompous little kid with a definite need to listen to something outside of NIN, MM and Slipknot. May I recommend Dirty Beatniks or Roni Size - you might like to try partying a bit to relieve stress. Oh and you get to meet girls and boy does it sound like you need that. Ta ta!
JET - A simple “I really don’t feel like talking right now” might have been sufficient to garner you the peace and quiet you were seeking, your behaviour towards this woman was reprehensible no matter what her medical or social condition was.
You said this lady was a looney toon and if so, she has an excuse for perhaps missing out on the signals you were sending. I work with handicapped persons who also suffer from various forms of mental illness. They will often miss many social cues that we catch right away.
What’s your excuse for being such an insensitive prick?
Iampunha - Why do you expect to be flamed? You seem to handle this woman as well as you can and seem to be polite as you do so. Perhaps I am the only person who noticed this comment and knew what you were talking about. I wouldn’t consider tardive dyskinesia “interesting” as much as it is sad. Tardive Dyskinesia results from the use of neuroleptic medications given to treat schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. Halperidol is an example of a neuroleptic medication. See my link for details.
I am one of those people that will strike up conversations with complete strangers, I won’t talk to people who are giving off signals that say “don’t talk to me” but for the most part, people like to talk. We can learn a great deal from each other. This board is evidence of that.
I’m an outgoingly annoyingly gregariously sociable fuck. And you know what, Lynn? I’d offer this postulate: That the very IDEA of your being ABLE to NOT want to engage with someone in social discourse is, in fact, a very American right and ideal. Nobody is forced to do such a thing, and nobody should be EXPECTED to. Even when it’s a chirpfucker like me trying to be Susie Sunshine up your ass when you are in the middle of dissecting your childhood inside your mind.
However. I can take a hint. Really well. And, I don’t sit and brood over the awful rejection. I just fuckin’ move on with life. Hey, it’s just a random bit of contact. If the offer is proferred and rejected, whatthehell.
I ordinarily don’t excuse rudeness either, and it hurts me terribly when I am the object of someone’s rudeness. However, I believe JET lives in a world that is outside the parameters of the way most people think. I believe he is trying to deal with a world that is very difficult and strange to him by meeting with his therapist. While I don’t think he handled it in a kind way, I believe everyone does the best they can with the resources (be they emotional, spiritual, educational, financial, whatever applies to a situation) available to them. I think he is more likely to listen to the advice that is given to him in a respectful manner, even if he himself is not always respectful.
The Amazing Jarbabyj Magneto-Slam. Yes, much like the small magnetic word collections found in bookstores nationwide, the Magneto-Slam will contain a select list of words, chosen by our own Jarbabyj.
With 20 obscenities and 20 adverbs to chose from, the fun will never end !! Imagine calling that whiney little toadstool of a spouse into the kitchen, and unleashing a mouthful of * Magneto-Slam* on his or her sorry ass:
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Why, you’ll be the talk of the Board !! Order today !! Credit cards gleefully accepted, Modus Operandi’s standing by.
OK, this is why I have to keep fluids away from the computer when I’m reading this board.
Jeremy, you’re not interesting enough to creep anybody out. You are an ordinary, stuck-up teenage jerk with a chip on his shoulder as big as Iowa. In other words, just another faceless, boring teenager who thinks he’s unique and above the common herd. Well, you’re not above the herd because you are too average to stick out. You are gray, dull, and utterly forgettable. <yawn>
The only thing that I find unusual about JET is that he chooses not to phrase his posts in the same manner as most other people.
That is, he doesn’t seek to put himself in the best possible light.
Most often it seems he shows himself in the worst possible light.
I’m pretty sure he does this on purpose for one reason or another.
I’ve always found him to be interesting and thoughtful, and am kind of surprised that people react so strongly to him.
Being annoyed by someone who persistently accostsyou, asks inaprropriate questions, and refuses to get the message is a not uncommon, or inhumane experience.
Ok Everyone here who really, really really hopes that JET continues his therapy raise your hand.
JET you are definitely damaged and probably not safe for human consumption. You need some serious anger management skills and some lessons on basic human interaction 101.
Lesson 1: Don’t expect people to be able to know what you are thinking unless you tell them.
Lesson 2. Try to interact with others the way you would want them to interact with you.
Lesson 3. For the love of God, lighten up.
BTW the phrase “I could care less” is only correct if you happen to care about the matter somewhat but could actually care a little less about it. It implies some degree of caring.
“I couldn’t care less” means that you do not care at all and your level of caring is nonexistant.
I couldn’t care less about interacting with you in real life. Ever. I hope you have a good life.
Jesus, JET, get a new therapist pronto, because this one is doing you no good at all with these anger management issues. Somebody intrudes on your Fortress of Solitude so you feel you need to be viciously rude to them? Fuck you, you childish little turd.
I wasn’t going to respond to your little tantrum, but too many people took issue with the schizophrenic remark.
To wit: why was it offensive of Baglady to ask if JET was schizophrenic? Would it have been less offensive if they were at a heart specialist and she asked if he had a bad ticker? Looks to me like some of you are subscribing to a little bigotry. She did nothing wrong other than miss JET’s unspoken hints that he didn’t want to talk. Hints can often be easy to miss, even for a mental patient. An appropriate response from a reasonable person (still reading, JET?) would have been to tell her clearly and directly that he didn’t want to talk. Period. No insults. No profanity. Save that shit for the Pit.
OOOOOH… a dipshit like Zette told me to fuck off. Oh, even better! Zette’s able to act like an asshole and brings up stuff from other threads to make the “insult” look better!
Low, Zette, very low indeed. Bordering on pathetic.
If all you people think Mr. Evil Twin is so horrible and scary, why don’t you, y’know, stop posting to the fucking thread? Because, in the end, you don’t give a damn about him. You don’t give a damn about that woman. You only give a damn about your own self-righteousness.
“Ooh, I don’t understand him, so I might as well mock him!”
