I have been civil in my responses to you in the Kasparov thread, but you are pushing me to the limit. You are imputing motives to my posts that are not justifiable, which is bad enough, but you’re also being a flaming asshole about it.
As far as I’m aware, we have not had any significant interaction on this board, but if you think I am an apologist for Republicans, conservatives, or the right-wing in any way you are mistaken. Not that I need to explain my views to you, but I’d describe my political bent as Bull Moose progressive.
Not everyone who cites Alinsky is doing it ironically. Try reading for comprehension.
Hardly! My scathing takedown of Clarence Birdseye was featured on OpalCat’s Page O’ Flames for years!
Since the goal of the post was to elicit an apology, I saw no need to fill it with abuse or insinuations about the manner and/or circumstances of drad dog’s birth.
Good man. It certainly wouldn’t be fair to insinuate that his mama was a freezer-burned bag of Niblets and his daddy was a philandering Tyson Chicken Nugget with the clap.
Every seventeen years or so, you really let loose!
Don’t let it get to be a habit.
Regards,
Shodan
PS - I enjoyed the “botanical thyroid case” reference particularly. But I tend to chop the broccoli stems and toss them with a little garlic, olive oil, and some sea salt we got for Christmas.
Your protestations that you’re not a Tea Party movementarian ring sort of hollow, because literally the only people who talk about Saul Alinksy nowadays are Tea Party movementarians.
Although you didn’t use the whole canned phrase “Saul Alinksy style radical”, which is an obvious shibboleth. So maybe you’re only Right-wing mediasphere adjacent.
Amateur Barbarian wrote: “Poor Saul has been the whippin’ boy of the right so long it’s hard to make his points stand up in debate. Kind of like quoting Nietzsche.”
The irony, of course, is that Alinsky, although a man of the left, was primarily a tactician, and tactics don’t care who uses them.
Yes, his tactics were embraced by the right, that’s what the Tea Party was all about.
And yes, it’s all just common sense political movement building, it wasn’t like Alinksy was some kind of genius.
But I’m not talking about his tactics, I’m talking about the tactic of talking about his tactics. You haven’t heard the epithet “Saul Alinsky style radical” over and over again on right wing media? True, it was more of a thing back in Barack Hussein Obama’s first term, when that community organizer with his Chicago machine politics and his Kenyan anti-colonialism and his Saul Alinsky style radicalism became president.
Talking about Alinsky was a right wing shibboleth. Oh, a Saul Alinksy style radical? That sounds terrible!
I grew up in 2 very left wing households. I never heard of the guy until president Black Person was elected and it became a part of the derangement, and delegitimization thereof. I think I can recall half a dozen mentions on fox news (and virtually zero elsewhere.) Never heard a discussion of him anywhere else. That’s my context.
So why is he the thing you think of when someone is talking about Garry Kasparov?
BTW: I like Teddy too. My Great Uncle was a Maine Guide, knew teddy, and was the one who called the 1912 progressive party convention to order with his expert bullmoose call. Have a good day.
The thing that has really sent me into the red over Alinsky has been that they cite him when they are using the worst most egregious of the things they accuse him of. It’s a big fucking propaganda projection where Democrats somehow aren’t allowed to use strategy, because it’s communist or something.
