[QUOTE=tremorviolet]
I think they were a fad and then middle American got a death-hold on the look because they are easy for overweight women to wear. I keep thinking they’re gonna finally go away but now, the stores are full of those damn tops this spring too. I have a waist, dammit.
[/QUOTE]
I have a waist, but also a general “guitar shape”. And a properly fitted empire (i.e., not what you usually see) makes a woman’s tits look bigger.
I had a coworker who was quite pretty and gave shortbrains to about any man in her vicinity… but when she wore a particular empire blouse she had, the shortbraining was serious enough that those guys should have had their driving licenses temporarily removed.
Mind you, women who wear empire blouses with the seams in the wrong place should be taken out back and spraypainted in whichever color they hate most.
[QUOTE=anyrose]
But worse than the saboteurs (who I have learned to ignore and fend off with my Wonder Woman like deflector bracelets - zing. zing.) are the “well intentioned”. If I have allowed for an upcoming celebration (made room in my points bank, calorie count, what-have-you) so that I may have a small piece of cake, I am assaulted by “you can’t have any” or “are you allowed that?” “are you sure you want that?” “I thought you were trying?” “you were doing so well” There are only so many polite ways to say “fuckoff” or “myob”. I am tempted to counter with something equally as obnoxious, tailored to the individual.
[/QUOTE]
Mom gets the same shit re. diabetes: “yes I’m allowed to have fruit, just not too much in one sitting” “that’s one of the things the self-test is for, to find out how much is too much” etc etc and then “no I don’t want another piece of cake” “because I don’t” “listen, you wanna break your diet, go ahead, I said no” “you do have a problem with the word ‘no’, don’t you?”
Yes. I agree with this. I am going to go out and stockpile all the puke colors of spraypaint I can find.
The standard cup size clothing is designed for is a B-cup. This means most empire-waisted tops hit me just below the nipple-line, instead of below the bust like they’re supposed to. Super-unflattering.
I just got back from shopping for clothes. My problem is, I’m not fat, and I’m not skinny-I’m short with an hour-glass figure, so everything I find makes me look like I’m all tits. I hate, hate HATE all these baggy, gathered tops. The 80s are GONE, stop trying to bring them back!
I finally found a few things, but I’m dreading going shopping later this summer for a dress for my cousin’s wedding.
Part of my problem though, is that even if the latest styles this season were flattering, I think they’re butt ugly. At least with “Audrey Hepburn” styles, you can always find a little black dress that flatters you.
[QUOTE=Miss Purl McKnittington]
Yes. I agree with this. I am going to go out and stockpile all the puke colors of spraypaint I can find.
The standard cup size clothing is designed for is a B-cup. This means most empire-waisted tops hit me just below the nipple-line, instead of below the bust like they’re supposed to. Super-unflattering.
[/QUOTE]
Oh Lord. Yes. That or you keep yanking it down throughout the course of the day like Captain Picard adjusting his uniform, except this bares the girls enough to be just this side of obscenity, where he just looks bald and cranky.
regarding capris - I have stocky, bloated ankles - capris only serve to bring attention to that.
regarding baby doll tops - I am so “over endowed” the seam separating the placket from the drape never lands on me where it should - it usually ends up mid boob. I have to wear trapeze tops to allow or that, and to cover my hips. I usually look for ones that have a decorative collar or a loud colorful print.
[QUOTE=Little Plastic Ninja]
Oh Lord. Yes. That or you keep yanking it down throughout the course of the day like Captain Picard adjusting his uniform, <snip>
[/QUOTE]
The technical term for this is The Picard Manouver.
And he looks bald, cranky, and sexy. Don’t forget sexy.
[QUOTE=pbbth]
I have lost 49 lbs in the last 11 months but it has been like dodging bullets the whole time. When I mentioned my weight loss off handedly to another woman in my office who was also trying to lose a few pounds (she is a size 6 and doesn’t need to lose an ounce but of course she won’t be happy until she makes Kate Moss look obese) within 48 hours she had spread the word and women from every department at my company showed up with baked goods, candy, etc. I came to work one morning and found a box of Little Debbie’s on my desk! I mentioned to my roommate that I had lost some weight and less than a week later I come home and she has ordered each of us an entire large pizza for dinner. It is a never ending attempt at sabotage that is completely unnecessary since I still have another 60 lbs to lose before I’ll be anywhere near a healthy weight.
[/QUOTE]
Christ. It’s stories like this that make me glad I have a penis.
I think the solution is to lace the treats with poison and return them to sender. That’ll teach 'em.
[QUOTE=eleanorigby]
Capris that are wide legged need to be worn by taller, thinner women (or women who have long, slim legs). But closer fitting Capris (not spandex, but not boxy) can be worn by larger women, if they hit just below the knees. There are probably some body builds that can’t wear Capris at all. I can’t wear A line skirts–they cut my torso in half and I look like a hobbit.
[/QUOTE]
Oooh. A larger friend of mine loves wearing those, plus gauchos. :eek: And I’ve been at somewhat of a loss to figure out what to point her at that will be more flattering to her shape. She’s basically built like an outhouse (woo!), but doesn’t have a good sense of what would flatter her best, IMNSHO. That’s an excellent hint, thanks.
I bet I could armwrestle her into letting me have some of her pants hemmed like your suggestion re capris…
[QUOTE=Her Royal IMFness]
…the thought of ripping the snobby ass grin off the planar surface she calls a face…
[/QUOTE]
Rock on!
I’m using this in conversation tomorrow. (I’m dealing with telecom contractors, so I’m entitled to a regular venting of the spleen!)
For the record, I agree with the OP 90-95%. My wife and I are a little on the, um, “zaftig” side, and while we’re not proud about it, we’re doing what we can to deal with it and we certainly don’t deserve haughty weightest attitudes from self-important Ann Coulter clones.
Of course, the gate swings both ways… Why does Ann Coulter only take baths, not showers? Because she kept slipping through the little holes in the drain gate. Etc.
Gah. I just told a weightest joke, AND imagined Ann Coulter in the nude. Now I feel dirty.
[QUOTE=bump]
There’s a store called “Torrid”, I think, that sells some pretty stylish plus-sized stuff, and they have a website that you can order from too.
[/QUOTE]
I just went there and ordered a black short-sleeved hoodie with little skulls on the pocket and hood trim! Thanks for the tip, bump!
[QUOTE=Miss Purl McKnittington]
Yes. I agree with this. I am going to go out and stockpile all the puke colors of spraypaint I can find.
The standard cup size clothing is designed for is a B-cup. This means most empire-waisted tops hit me just below the nipple-line, instead of below the bust like they’re supposed to. Super-unflattering.
[/QUOTE]
I avoid most clothes with boob-related seams if at all possible. This means that most of those fun, fitted styles (like the empire waist-- done properly) are out of my range unless I want to draft the pattern and make it from scratch.
I do, however, like capris. They’re great for me because I have long legs and no real desire to wear shorts that are only an inch or two away from exposing my underwear. The in-between length is great for summer as well, because I get a little bit of leg ventilation and don’t end up feeling as overheated while still being covered up. I do, however, have some bermuda shorts and some cargo shorts in my closet, but unless I’m wearing the bermuda shorts with something girly on top, I look really insanely butch. The cargo shorts are purely for when I don’t care if I look butch because I’m doing outdoor work, so it works out okay.
I’ve found that capris can be quite slimming, if they flare a little at the hem. Like boot cut/flare jeans. The only time I wear shorts anymore is around the house-pjs, basically.
[QUOTE=Garfield226]
And a lot of people don’t find Stephen Colbert funny, Albert Pujols is overrated to some, and you could probably even find a few people making the case that Albert Einstein isn’t all that smart.
I’m not personally attracted to many models, either. The point is, it’s pretty stupid to think you should be immune to be compared unfavorably to anybody about anything subjective. “Overweight females” do not “DESERVE TO BE SEEN AS JUST AS BEAUTIFUL AS EVERY FUCKING MODEL ON ANY GIVEN CATWALK” anymore than I deserve to be seen as funny as every fucking standup comedian on any given stage, or as talented as every fucking baseball player on any fiven field. And it’s ridiculous to think so.
[/QUOTE]
Body type is a very different thing than a talent or skill, do you realize that?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but everybody does deserve to be respected. And respect means not talking down about or to someone because of their physical appearance
But there are standards to beauty, no matter how arbitrary and capricious they may be (and those standards vary depending on culture). And there is a genetic component to it–John Cleese (of all people) did a special on this years ago–how the brain works and how it recognizes attributes like beauty. I cannot remember the focus of the program, but I remember him showing Elizabeth Hurley vs his mug via some kind of computer topography program–it was fascinating.
Respect is different than appreciating or having standards for beauty. No one here is suggesting disrespecting the plain or overweight, the OP’s complaint aside–and even that can be interpreted several different ways.
Humans look for the exceptional and laud it. One of those categories is physical attractiveness, for better or worse.
A store like that existed for about 8 months - Forth & Towne (a Gap division). Elegant, classic clothing for sizes up to misses 20. Beautiful cocktail wear, casual wear, and most importantly - business wear.
It got shit-canned when the Gap executive who oversaw it either quit or got fired.
I adored their things. I always search eBay for their leftovers. (sigh)
VCNJ~
[QUOTE=Mahna Mahna]
AMEN!
Not to mention that someone in the fashion industry seems to think that a size 4 and a size 12 have the same proportions, when in reality a size 12 will usually be much curvier in the hip than a size 4 (not that there aren’t exceptions on both ends… but as a rule, this is almost always the case).
My kingdom for a pair of pants that fits my ass AND waist at the same time.
[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=overlyverbose]
I’ve been lurking on this thread since it started and was reminded of it yesterday when I went shopping yesterday afternoon. I’ve lost about 25 pounds since last year and it’s a huge pain in the ass to find anything that looks right. I’m still slightly overweight and between a size 12 and 14. I have a ginormous rack, relatively trim waist and child-birthin’ hips (hourglass figure in other words) and can’t for the life of me find decent shirts that fit.
[/QUOTE]
You ought to look into some slightly fitted shirts. Hanes markets a fitted brand called “Perfect fit” and K-mart’s Basic-something-or-other brand has their own version called “classic” (“modern” is ultra fitted, “relaxed” loose), and I’m positive other stores and brands have similar. The cut of this style shows off your waist, rather than puddle around your middle when it’s large enough to accomodate your chest.
[QUOTE=Mahna Mahna]
My kingdom for a pair of pants that fits my ass AND waist at the same time.
[/QUOTE]
How about a shirt that fits my boobs, broad shoulders, waist, hips, etc. all at the same time as well?? (Which I am pretty much convinced does NOT exist!!!)
I was at Kohl’s the other day buying my 10 year old a shirt and tie for a wedding the next day and thought I would take a looksy at springy dresses for myself.
Has anyone noticed that rayon muu-muu type dresses are back? Ranging in size from the emaciated teen to the Meaty Woman Department. With LOUD prints are are not even quaint or charming like the past LOUD PRINTS.
Holey crap! I have never been so repelled by fashion trends before. Even Vera Wang’s clothing had a couple of silky/satiny shapeless sacks in really hideous colors (mostly mono colored, IRC) that would flatter about 1% of the population.
WTFH.
Has anyone noticed that rayon muu-muu type dresses are back? Ranging in size from the emaciated teen to the Meaty Woman Department. With LOUD prints are are not even quaint or charming like the past LOUD PRINTS.
[/QUOTE]
I think those are the ones that the What Not To Wear lady calls “the I give up dress”. Like a long pillowcase with arm and neck holes?
